obx lsd [Merged 5-7] limited slip phantom grip

[JiveMasterT]

Originally Posted by Phantomhp

I understand your feelings and if you go through the post me and another member here have been through this discussion before. I just started on this here because another member got others hopes up these were coming out and then dropped off. Where as now, I have delivered and got results for the members here.

I will not sit and say that what OBX does is exactly right but it is what brings competition to the market. If one company never copied another company there would only be 1 brand and set of parts on the market. Our selection of parts would not be what it is and we would basically all be driving cars with the same mods and brands everybody else does.

SSautochrome isn't OBX but yet a business that is a dealer through OBX such as I. I am just not an ebay company.

These LSD's through OBX have been proven in honda models to hold up to 600hp+ with no problems at all. I understand wanting to stick with a quaife due to name but for half the price you can get the same performance. Then you would have extra money for more parts

Mike

right right, i understand competition and stuff like that... i did take basic highschool business. according to the law, this is intellectual theft. if you design something and a company steals its design and modifies it just a little bit and charges a lot less then this essentially theft. that's why there is patents. do you understand that?

let me get into why this is bad. aside from the fact that it is morally wrong, it causes problems for both companies down the road. if a company like quaife designs something and another company steals the design and sells it for less then the company who originally designed the product then the company who originally designed the product loses sales and does not have enough money to stay in business or continue to innovate. what happens when obx sucks up all of their resource companies? like most parasites, when the host dies, so does the parasite. competition comes from innovation, not theft.

now, if obx was making stuff that was of the same quality as their host company then this would be the case. but they are not, so thats why the host company stays in business and continues to do well, because when someone breaks a bunch of mufflers or intakes, or headers, etc etc then they decide to go with something from a good named company. this is why you see threads about the obx/ssautochrome headers and other stuff like that on here. do they occasionally make a good quality product that i might even buy? yeah, they do. but their name is tarnished with a history of poor quality stuff. ask anyone that knows their stuff if they would rather have greddy or obx? apex'i or ssautochrome? hks or monza? well, i think you know where im going with this.

if this thing ever comes out id be curious to know what kind of punishment they go through before they snap. horsepower means nothing when you are looking to punish an LSD. it is all about the torque, and hondas are notorious for lacking that. i mean look at any high power honda car... it is like 1000 horsepower and 350 torque. id love to see how one of these things puts up with the punishment from a dsm. tell you what, my friend has got a nice one legged gst and im sure he could break that thing in like 10 runs. if you need someone for testing, lemme know and ill pass the word onto him.

[Phantomhp]

I do understand that....I do run and own a business so I do know how that works.

Some people do not have over $1,000 to lay down for an LSD either. If you do that is awsome but some people don't so that is why companies do that.

I am a quaife dealer as well and I went to quaife before about giving a group buy price on multiple sales and they turned it down. But they do know about OBX and what they do and said they can not do anything about it. They also said the only difference between theirs and obx is the cost of material and labor.

I am just doing what a dealer/retailer would do and bring to the market something that is in demand and yes some people do not agree with what OBX does but there is the demand for it. That is your supply and demand.

I agree with what you say so not defending OBX by any means just finishing up what was started by this post.

Sure, I might take you up on the offer to test one. If you break it great, lifetime warranty will provide a new one. If it holds up thats even better but I will keep you posted and might hit you up.

Mike

[Revolution]

Hey guys, first off many ppl can relate to the moral dilema when purchasing an item,but since many tuners have contributed their moral and ethical opinions in this thread then we should now refrain from further posting the same opinions over and over again.

I for one will not and cannot afford to pay out quafie's prices so buying a quafie spec lsd from another tuner member who just so happens to have a special relationship with obx shouldnt be a bad or wrong thing.

Like I said earlier if anybody is interested in purchasing an lsd " pm " myself with the info or Phantomhp or just add yoursaelf to the list.

#1 revolution 95 eagle talon awd tsi front ,center and rear lsd please.why buy one quafie lsd when I can buy three lsds for just a touch more.

[badbu68]

I'd buy a obx lsd for a 90 turbo fwd.

[damnslowtsi]

I need a fwd one as well. The car is a '90 fwd but I 'd get the one for a '93&up fwd so that I could use those newer a bit beefier axles.

..And those who are so ethically hurt I 'd say start another thread, seriously. I 'm not saying that I like a lot what is happenning these days but the 'process' has begun and nothing can seem to stop it so the choice is yours - join the new wave or keep on paying threefold and be a traditionalist.

[exzercist]

any word on how many obx lsd are made for the turbo eclipses? i really want a fwd one for my gst!

[ITSME4G63]

Originally Posted by exzercist

any word on how many obx lsd are made for the turbo eclipses? i really want a fwd one for my gst!

for awd 1g? do you guys produce front and rear and center diffs? Even if they are copies, In this case, even if the product is outsourced (which bothers me the most cause outsourcing is killing our country), I cant complain if their price on the diff is 60% cheaper. If they were making them like the company that makes teh evogt turbo and sells it for the same price as the original evo3 is, then Id complain. What I would ask for (and probably other members of dsmtuners too) is if you could donate 1 of your dsm lsds to a vendor or someone the rather who'd be able to compare teh obx lsd to the quaife (cuttit it open etcc) just to prove results that the obx is built just as good as the quiafe, not like that evogt crap. Thanks.

[exzercist]

i need one for a 2g.

[Revolution]

Please contact Phantomhp for any orders on the obx front lsd's.

Why live with wheel hop at launch and torque steer at 60 km/hr when you can get your car to perform like it was meant to ,a sports car.

[exzercist]

Originally Posted by Revolution

Please contact Phantomhp for any orders on the obx front lsd's.

Why live with wheel hop at launch and torque steer at 60 km/hr when you can get your car to perform like it was meant to ,a sports car.

i agree, thanks.

[Phantomhp]

Hey guys, sorry havent been around the forums to much lately.

The LSD's were delayed from the original date but are now about here. We look to have a unit in our hands by Friday with pics. Also, the rest of the shipment will be arriving on Sat to OBX and I can then begin to place orders and send these out.

So PM me or email over to phantomhp@aol.com with your requests. Right now I believe all we have are the fronts for the eclipse and talons.

Here are some pics of a unit for the non-turbo models.
*LARGE PICS AND FILE SIZE*




Thanks,
Mike

[Phantomhp]

Hey Guys!!

Here is more pics of the LSD and box it will be shipped in. These pics are taken by us on our own kitchen table and even a shipping label to boot.

This is the 1st 420A LSD from OBX to see outside obx's warehouse and we have it with these pics to go along.







Again if you have any questions or want to be put on the new list for a unit then please emails me or PM me with your name, shipping info, phone number and how many units.

Thanks,
Mike

[Grn95GST]

Here you go. They are on ebay now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...spagenameZWDVW

[nazthug]

well just stumbled on them on ebay, ready to ship, they are done i guess and for sale for $450...makes it hard to want to buy a quaife now for 1200 doesnt it...lol

I just bought a new tranny to replace my blown one, may just get one of these to try out

There is a local shopowner here that runs one on his 01 civic with 600whp and runs low 10s launching on 26" slicks....at 10000rpm...and he says he hasnt broken it yet, guess I will be trying it out probably

[nazthug]

oh to to whoever previously mentioned my quotes and pointed fingers, first off all, I did talk (email) to a obx rep, didnt go anywhere because he was blowing a bunch of smoke up my ass about sending me the first one free to try out and all that bs....again, im not too fond of obx the company itself because theyre..welll...just weird, lol


Also, haha...look, htere is an LSD for our car, unlike some of you who pointed at me saying I was bulshiting, theyre on ebay now for $450

Im probably gonna end up ordering it still just to try it, I got a new tranny for cheap so I might as well throw it in there i gues

[2GturboTALON]

i was just about to post asking about this lsd. Im waiting for a review.

[sleek98]

does anyone have this in there car right now? im thinking about getting one but i want to know about fitment?

chris

[GinNBoost]

I emailed the Ebayer selling the OBX LSDs and asked him if he has sold alot of the GST LSDs and how it compares to the Quaife. He claims he has sold many and hasn't had any complaints yet from customers. Also told me that the OBX LSD is based on the Quaife design. I really want to buy one of these. The price is too good to pass up, but it's just a matter of "trusting" OBX. However from what I've read, OBX has tunred it around and their products are just as good (if not better) as some of the more expensive brands.

[sleek98]

where can you get the speedo ring gear for the obx unit?


chris

[jrpmp69]

i just purchased one of these LSD's and i am sending my transmission to John Shepherd for him to rebuild and intall this OBX LSD. I will post my experience with it as soon as i get my tranny back from Shepherd Racing and my car running.

[jrpmp69]

Originally Posted by sleek98

where can you get the speedo ring gear for the obx unit?


chris

off the old Differential or a new one from a Mitsu Dealership.