TRE good or bad?

[Brodie]

i'd just like some input on wether or not to trust TRE....

 

[90GSX]

TRE is a very respected DSM vendor. I'm running EVO forks and a "spool" from them; very happy with those products.

 

[NJGSX96]

Another happy customer here. I have their 1st and 2nd gear, shift rails, syncros and Evo forks.

 

[Brodie]

thanks for the input sofar....i guess another thing i wanna know is what parts i should get from them....i was thinking 1st gear, all synchros(double second), maybe rails, and maybe forks...whatcha think?

 

[NJGSX96]

Are they rebuilding your trans or are you buying the parts and doing it yourself?

 

[Brodie]

I'm having my normal tranny shop do it (i dont trust myself with the trannny....everything else ok but not a tranny)....He's going to rebuild it and i figured since he is in there why doesnt he do a little upgrading

 

[Turbo]

Very helpful & informative.
Jon took the time to inform me & explain the reasons for things being the way they are . You know he has to be a busy man. I thought that was pretty cool .

 

[Brodie]

well i had to make a decision by the end of the week but i guess im going with TRE....onyl question i still have is what to get.....i dont have ALOT to spend and i would like to get the most out of this....i know for sure i want the syncrho set and the double 2nd...anything else?

 

[NJGSX96]

Brodie, you got a PM.

If you want save money, buy stock from a Mitsu dealer. Norco Mitsubishi is awesome and they know what you need. Most "upgrades" are just better stock parts from different years anyway. The stuff that isn't, get from TRE or BM.

 

[Brodie]

well if anyone is still paying attention i sent my tranny to my local shop on sat. he said hed call monday and let me know what i need....ill post more then

 

[NJGSX96]

Let us know when he get back to you.

 

[GSX_RCR]

Originally posted by NJGSX96
Let us know when he get back to you.

Yea, I've heard that TRE has a longer than usual turnaround time...let's see if there's any truth to that.

 

[Brodie]

I got a couple of days till i get my tranny back....any suggestions on what i should do till then...my car is already on jack stands

 

[ILOSE]

Jon at TRE is a great guy with a wealth of information. And he'll help you with andy questions you have. Their downside is that they are really bad with shipping. I have ordered parts from them on 2 seperate occasions and had them overnighted and paid for it only to recieve the parts 3 weeks and 1 week later respectively.

 

[ChrisHKS]

how will the higher 1st gear affect the torque/rpm/powerband? (besides the fact that it will let you hit 40mph in 1st)

 

[snox135]

Originally posted by ChrisHKS
how will the higher 1st gear affect the torque/rpm/powerband? (besides the fact that it will let you hit 40mph in 1st)

If you are talking about the TRE spec 1st and 2nd gear set, I would only recommend getting that if you are making alot of power. Other wise go with the GVR 1st gear and input shaft.

 

[Brodie]

Well my tranny shop got back to me and i found out that i need a whole Synchro and bearing kit and a 3/4 shift fork. Hes telling me that the synchro and bearing kit is 280 alone. If anyone has any experience in this matter, please let me know. 280 sounds a but high to me. Any feed back would be great. Thanks

 

[ChrisHKS]

snox135, im not really interested in buying these gears at the moment but just wanted to know how they affect torque/rpm/powerband or anything

 

[NJGSX96]

Brodie, $280 sounds alright. You figure the dual second setup (including 2nd gear, hub/slider, keys and springs, dual cone syncro and 2 new bearings) will cost you ~$260 from the dealer. Shift fork is $20. You could always go EVO forks for $30 each, although I have heard problems with the wear pads. Heard being key word as I know many people running them with no problems. Figure you might as well do the other syncros while you are in there since stock they are made with the crappy clutch-like material inside. Upgrade to the full brass syncros for better wear and longevity. 1st, 3rd and 4th are $10-15 each. If you do change out the syncros, you'll need the other 2 bearings for that gear stack as well. Another $25 there. Also, don't forget to install new seals. 4 new ones will cost you maybe $20. Also, I would get the tranny filter for a 95+ trans which is $5 extra. How much is he charging you for labor?

Chris, I would steer away from the taller first. I have it and have gained and felt absolutely nothing. The dual cone second is just a better made gear kit. it engages much nicer, but affect nothing in terms of torgue/rpm/powerband other than that you can bang them real good. However, having a 95 model, you should have this already.

 

[GSX_RCR]

So how much is involved with breaking down a tranny and rebuilding it with "aftermarket" parts like synchros/gears/etc? Any specific tools needed?

 

[snox135]

Originally posted by ChrisHKS
snox135, im not really interested in buying these gears at the moment but just wanted to know how they affect torque/rpm/powerband or anything

Either one will quicken your 60' times because the stock first gear is to low. If you were to go with the TRE spec gears and did not have enough power your 60' times would be slower and it may bog a little bit.

 

[Brodie]

well see here is the problem. All these prices that he gave me are for the "stock" stuff and the 28 is for JUST a single synchro kit.(not a double second...just a complete single set for the whole tranny) and he told me the shift fork is 45. So right there we are looking at 325. He said that synchro kit hes buying comes with all the seals and bearings and synchros that i need and IT is 280. He told me 600 for the whole deal. BUT a year ago he did my NT tranny for 600 and that time he had to replace 2 gears, my clutch, resurface my flywheel, all my synchros and both shift forks. PLUS this time i pulled the tranny FOR him and last time he had to pull it himself. So, any more feeback would be cool

 

[NJGSX96]

AFter a quick browse through an old reciept from earlier this year... Syncros are $60-70 for 1st through 5th, bearings are $40-50 for all 4 (input and intermediate shafts), seals are maybe $20 for all 4 and a shift fork is $20-30.... $35-40 if you want the EVO fork.

However, you have to remember that these parts I am listing are discounted for DSMers from the various vendors we are blessed to have. You are going through a trans shop so you will be paying a premium since that is how he makes money. Most trans shops charge a flat fee of $300-400 in labor, plus parts.

 

[onegee]

i was thinking of buying a brand new awd tranny from tre with all these options:

GVR-4 1st gear & input shaft,
TRE-spec DOUBLE SYNCHRO 3rd/4th GEARSET, (shift @ 9000rpm)
MAX SPEED 5TH gearset, 25% taller
TRE-spec EVO III shift forks w/ Bronze wear pads,
TRE-spec steel shift rails,

now my biggest reason for getting a new tranny is better shifting and relability...if im making somewhere in the range of 300-350hp or so...will this tranny setup (with minimal hard shifting) be worth the money and last long enough? appreciate any input....

 

[NJGSX96]

No need for the Max 5th gear unless you plan on going 200MPH. Don't bother with a taller 1st gear. You'll notice no difference. Get the dual cone second gear syncro kit. Double 3rd/4th is nice, but not sure how necessary. Why don't you just get yours rebuilt? Much cheaper than buying new and adding the cost of upgrades on top of that.