Flywheel / Starter Problem?? HELP PLease

[this_is_me48823]

I just bought a 1993 Eagle Talon 7-Bolt motor for my 1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse fwd non-turbo. I converted the automatic transmission to turbo manual transmission out of a 1991 Eclipse fwd. I replaced the plate on the transmission when i did the engine/transmission conversion. Now my starter won't reach my flywheel. I purchased a 7 bolt flywheel off www.car-part.com and I was told is was for a 1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse Non turbo. It fit on perfect but it's much bigger and heavier than my 6 bolt one. How do I know if I have the right generation flywheel. Could someone show me pictures or tell me which one I may have. The auto recyclers may have gave me the wrong year I dont know. Please help asap.

 

[this_is_me48823]

PLEASE HELP..I put a new 4g63t flywheel on it and it still doesnt work....Do I need to buy a diffrent transmission?

 

[boostedinaz]

If the new motor and trans are from a 1G turbo car then you need 1G turbo parts. I am not very familiar with the NT but I would see if you can get a starter for a 1G turbo car and try that they may be very different. I would also use the plate from the turbo motor. You basically have a 1Gb turbo car now so all the parts you get will need to be for that application.

Michael


PS. If the starters are different I have two extra lying around you can have for 20.00 plus shipping. Email me or PM me of you want it.

 

[this_is_me48823]

I already switched the plates with the turbo transmission and I'm getting ready to switch the starters to the original turbo transmission starter. One was a 6 bolt transmission and the other was a 7 bolt 4G63T Flywheel. I'll give it a try but I have a feeling that it won't work. I'm willing to buy another transmission if it will help.

 

[boostedinaz]

did you change out the flywheel to a 7bolt turbo flywheel??? All 1G turbo FWD trannies are the same as far as your problem is concerned. There are differences but nothing that would affect this and it is only on a 90.

Michael

 

[this_is_me48823]

I changed it to a 2G 4G63T Flywheel. here is the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2480176981

 

[1fast97gsx]

is that an awd flywheel? I know awd and fwd are different sizes.

 

[boostedinaz]

I bet it would make you life alot easier and cheaper if you just bought the right parts the first time. I would have bought a 1G 7 bolt flywheel just to cut out any possibilty of them not being the same. I guess some just like making things harder.

Michael

 

[this_is_me48823]

I just put the original starter off the transmission but it couldn't reach the teeth on the flywheel. I think the flywheel on the 7 bolt are just smaller than the 6 bolt. Does anyone know where I can get a transmission for it? I need one ASAP. Its a FWD Flywheel off a 4G63T Engine. The transmission is off a 6 bolt 1991 Turbo Eclipse. It worked fine with my old 6 bolt non turbo tranny but now it won't with my 7 bolt 1993 Talon non turbo motor. So I now need a transmission. Anyone have one for sale?

 

[Morphius]

I can't speak for 2G cars, but I've got all the 1G parts setting in front of me. The ring gear (teeth on the flywheel) is the same diameter for 1.8L and 2.0L engines. This includes turbo engines.

The starters for autos and manuals are the same also, because the depth of the snout on the starters are identical. There may be differences in the diameter of the starter body, but the amount that the starter protrudes in to the tranny is the same.

AWD and FWD turbo flywheels are identical.

6 bolt and 7 bolt turbo flywheels are the same, with the exception of the 7th hole in it for the crank. I don't have the 7 bolt NT flywheel out the car, but would imagine it would be identical to the 6 bolt varient.

Maybe your starter is shot? There is a small solenoind on the starter that kicks the starter teeth out to the end of the starter snout when you crank it over. Maybe that is bad? Try pulling the starter out, but have it wired up still. Make sure it's grounded good. Then have someone bump the starter. Do the teeth change position in the snout? If not, that solenoid is bad. If it does, you've got something else wrong.

This plate you refer to, that you changed? Which plate is this? did you bolt the flywheel directly to the crank? No spacers are used like the automatic flexplate uses.

 

[this_is_me48823]

I think I bought a 2g turbo flywheel and that's my problem. Could you send a picture of a turbo or non turbo 1g flywheel 7 bolt? I really need one ASAP. I now have 1 6-bolt flywheel resurfaced...1 7-bolt non-turbo 1g flywheel and a 2g turbo 7 bolt flywheel that wont work . So I have still one option left. I may be interested in your 1G 7 bolt flywheel. Please reply My starters are both in great shape and enage properly. [email protected]

 

[this_is_me48823]

I still haven't found out what my problem is yet....I'm guessing that the turbo and non-turbo flywheels are diffrent for the 7-bolt...Could someone help me with knowledge of these type of things?

 

[Morphius]

I can't speak for 2G cars, but I've got all the 1G parts setting in front of me. The ring gear (teeth on the flywheel) is the same diameter for 1.8L and 2.0L engines. This includes turbo engines.

The starters for autos and manuals are the same also, because the depth of the snout on the starters are identical. There may be differences in the diameter of the starter body, but the amount that the starter protrudes in to the tranny is the same.

AWD and FWD turbo flywheels are identical.

6 bolt and 7 bolt turbo flywheels are the same, with the exception of the 7th hole in it for the crank. I don't have the 7 bolt NT flywheel out the car, but would imagine it would be identical to the 6 bolt varient.

Maybe your starter is shot? There is a small solenoind on the starter that kicks the starter teeth out to the end of the starter snout when you crank it over. Maybe that is bad? Try pulling the starter out, but have it wired up still. Make sure it's grounded good. Then have someone bump the starter. Do the teeth change position in the snout? If not, that solenoid is bad. If it does, you've got something else wrong.

This plate you refer to, that you changed? Which plate is this? did you bolt the flywheel directly to the crank? No spacers are used like the automatic flexplate uses.

To correct my misinformation. The turbo FWD flywheel is larger in diameter than the AWD flwheel.

 

[Mirage2LTurbo]

To correct my misinformation. The turbo FWD flywheel is larger in diameter than the AWD flwheel.

Wrong, AWD is larger diameter than FWD.

 

[Morphius]

Wrong, AWD is larger diameter than FWD.

I disagree.

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/clutchandflywheeltech.htm


I also have two 4G63T motors that came out of FWD cars and they have a larger flywheel.

 

[dmc67]

well since this thread was brought up, will a Turbo flywheel work on Non-Turbo tranny/starter? I myself dunno bout the AWD anf FWD flywheels all I know is I need one for a 93 Talon ES and I cant find a 7-bolt Non-Turbo flywheel for the life of me.