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Old 11-07-2009, 05:34 AM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #721 (permalink)
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Your gonna have to machine the main caps, and shave down the side of the block at the bottom of the piston wall.
I have RNRs and yes you have to machine some off of the main cap buy you do not have to touch the piston walls or anything else.

The HDs will require you to massage your oil squirters if you are running them to get them to clear and not end up in the pan.

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Old 11-07-2009, 06:52 AM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #722 (permalink)
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Thanks man I will be sure to keep the ball moving and keep the pictures coming

Next on the list QM clutch

The stock bumper wasn't gonna cut it for fmic flow so I busted out the 3" cutter and a trip to home depot later





Great job on the bumper. Looks like a machine did it. Good work.

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After talking with the selle more seems like the guy tha originally setup the head was trying to build a 9.5sec auto car with 2.0 bottom end and the head porter(CHris I think from a companycalled advanced airflow engineering out of Michigan) had the cams custom ground do compliment the head porting. I don't know how much of this is true or if it will help me so I"ll just have to wait to get the cams in and see what I got. WHat makes me wonder is the seller said he had someone(a dm guy) check them out and the guy said that these cams were too big for his setup. I don't know anyone that would say 272's are too big for their setup.
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I am the one that traded cams with Sean, and thought that people might want to know how they are, I am very impressed with these mystery cams to say the least. Anyways, I did some more investigating about what the heck the cam grind was on these cams and it took a lot of digging. I called Comp Cams 4 times before I spoke with anyone that had a clue they made cams, but I got some insight. These cams were custom ground for Mike Licht (the Maf-t guy) and he designed them with them for a custom project. With a little more digging, I figured out that Mike had ordered these for a 9sec project he was involved in, but the car never really was put together and was parted out. Then I assume that the person that you bought the head and cams from was the guy that bought the parts from Mike for another 9sec hope, and sold again. Then you got them and we traded.

I have to say, out of all the cams I have used these things are insane! I have used BC 280's, BC 288's, HKS 280's, FP2's, FFWD KK2's (280+), and these Comps. The vac at a 1k idle is right about 13hg/in and they idle pretty well. They have a decent lump to them, but nothing too crazy. The drivablilty of them is great, but there is a slight "flat" spot about 3k that the car feels a bit sluggish but nothing that other big cams don't have. Now, as for the wot pulls.....
I've never had a cam set that pulls like these do! I was reaching 20psi about 5200rpm with a 3575 and the 288's, and I am now reaching 20psi about 4800rpm with the Comp Cams. All that was changed was the cams, nothing else. Also, the power with the 288's up top was great, it started to flatten out about 7000rpm and drop the power about 20hp to 8500rpm on the dyno. The butt dyno also noticed the same while doing 3rd gear pulls. The Comp cams on the other hand made more torque, and more hp at the same psi (24psi) then the 288's. On the dyno, I was shocked when I saw where the peak hp was, it was at 8400rpm!! Peak Hp gain was roughly 23, but the gain was made from 6000rpm on. The curve of my dyno graph was smooth and kept rising till my tuner let off. According to the butt dyno, I am very pleased too, cause the gut feeling is intense and the power never stops all the way to 9k! For those of you wondering, I made 439whp and 326wtq with the 288's, and 462whp and 341wtq with the comp cams That was on straight 92 octane pump gas and 24psi with moderate timing.

In short, the odd ball cams Sean traded me are nuts. I honestly expected lower performing cams since the specs are so much smaller. I was totally wrong though. I'm sure that you will take full advantage of the big 288 lobe profile in your drag car, but I am glad that we were able to trade. I enjoy the cams tremendously.

I wish you all the best luck with your 9sec build and look forward to seeing the results from you hard work. Take care.

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Hey,
I am the one that traded cams with Sean, and thought that people might want to know how they are, I am very impressed with these mystery cams to say the least. Anyways, I did some more investigating about what the heck the cam grind was on these cams and it took a lot of digging. I called Comp Cams 4 times before I spoke with anyone that had a clue they made cams, but I got some insight. These cams were custom ground for Mike Licht (the Maf-t guy) and he designed them with them for a custom project. With a little more digging, I figured out that Mike had ordered these for a 9sec project he was involved in, but the car never really was put together and was parted out. Then I assume that the person that you bought the head and cams from was the guy that bought the parts from Mike for another 9sec hope, and sold again. Then you got them and we traded.

I have to say, out of all the cams I have used these things are insane! I have used BC 280's, BC 288's, HKS 280's, FP2's, FFWD KK2's (280+), and these Comps. The vac at a 1k idle is right about 13hg/in and they idle pretty well. They have a decent lump to them, but nothing too crazy. The drivablilty of them is great, but there is a slight "flat" spot about 3k that the car feels a bit sluggish but nothing that other big cams don't have. Now, as for the wot pulls.....
I've never had a cam set that pulls like these do! I was reaching 20psi about 5200rpm with a 3575 and the 288's, and I am now reaching 20psi about 4800rpm with the Comp Cams. All that was changed was the cams, nothing else. Also, the power with the 288's up top was great, it started to flatten out about 7000rpm and drop the power about 20hp to 8500rpm on the dyno. The butt dyno also noticed the same while doing 3rd gear pulls. The Comp cams on the other hand made more torque, and more hp at the same psi (24psi) then the 288's. On the dyno, I was shocked when I saw where the peak hp was, it was at 8400rpm!! Peak Hp gain was roughly 23, but the gain was made from 6000rpm on. The curve of my dyno graph was smooth and kept rising till my tuner let off. According to the butt dyno, I am very pleased too, cause the gut feeling is intense and the power never stops all the way to 9k! For those of you wondering, I made 439whp and 326wtq with the 288's, and 462whp and 341wtq with the comp cams That was on straight 92 octane pump gas and 24psi with moderate timing.

In short, the odd ball cams Sean traded me are nuts. I honestly expected lower performing cams since the specs are so much smaller. I was totally wrong though. I'm sure that you will take full advantage of the big 288 lobe profile in your drag car, but I am glad that we were able to trade. I enjoy the cams tremendously.

I wish you all the best luck with your 9sec build and look forward to seeing the results from you hard work. Take care.
Man that's great to hear!!! You have to keep in mind though that it's not always bigger is better. Those cams sound like they match your car a lot better than mine considering the hp levels and the goals that you said you were going for. My head is ported about as much as you can go befroe you slow down velocity and make it worse and more lift and duration is what will work good for my build but for yours it sounds like those cams are where it's at.

Def looking forward to see what you do with some real gas and more boost

Edit: actually you made those numbers at 24psi lol. Your actually not far off from my build and goals. Oh well haha


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Old 11-07-2009, 10:49 AM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #725 (permalink)
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The new one has a more street friendly cage in it, it already has the chuete mounted and the cable ran along with the lever, and it still has an interior. All of which add up to a car that I can still reach my ET goal but have a car that I can also drive on the street without looking like a honda kid with one seat mounted to the floor and nothing else lol.
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wow i think the only part of your house we dont have pictures of is your bathroom! haha looking good

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Yeah I did the same thing with this front bumper as my last bumper with the ruber lining on the edges to conseal any imperfections made by cutting. It's not al that hard. Just use a ruler to mark it before you cut in and like I said pick up window lining at like home depot and your set.


As for the bathroom watch what you ask for I do have some stuff I need to clean lol j/k

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I hear ya. I mean I always liked them but I thought they cost more than they actually do. Especially considering the company I got them from didn't charge me shipping which is what kills you with seats. I got them for $598 to my door from a company called Apex or something like that online.


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As for the bathroom watch what you ask for I do have some stuff I need to clean lol j/k
+2 for the bath pic. We need to see how feminine that baby is

Good to see the progress continues, man. As much as I bust your balls about it, I like that you are letting the process determine how long it will take, instead of trying to fit the process into a time schedule

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I have RNRs and yes you have to machine some off of the main cap buy you do not have to touch the piston walls or anything else.

The HDs will require you to massage your oil squirters if you are running them to get them to clear and not end up in the pan.
O ok. I just figured u would have to ### iv had to with every other aluminum rod iv ever used, groden, Bme, ect.
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Yeah I think with a 20 over on a stock 2.0 crank and block that I should be good with just the mains. If not it is not a hard thing to do to make clearance.


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yea. If it dont fit then wow you'll set urself back 20 min to machine then down. lol
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yea. If it dont fit then wow you'll set urself back 20 min to machine then down. lol
Pretty much. Things are slow right now cause my job is on strike but good thing is we're suposed to get a signing bonus when we settle so that would mean that clutch I need would be coming sooner then later.



Tomorrow I"m going to work on the rear because I have a idea that I think will make it look a lot better and functional at the same time.

Got her out of storage gave her a bath then took some pics. These pics don't even do the car justice. Other than the fact that it looks like it's on stilts this is BY FAR the best shell I have ever had. I looked underneath and casey gave it the full prothane bushing kit too which is a plus







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I finally got turbo installed a similar setup as Slippi84, 16 cm HX52, JH Racing manifold, and 2x 38mm wastegates and something tell me he'll like it. It's a super fast spool turbo. I've only got a safe street tune, but it sees 20 psi at 4300 rpm on my Kelford 280 cams. It's nearly as fast as my previous setup of the T3 HX40.

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20 psi at 4300 mmmm.


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