Where are the FWDs at????

[Kreez]

I'm a greenhorn when it comes to drag racing, but I went out last year in my n/t Laser and had some fun. I knocked a second off my time with each pass and got down to 17.7 or something pathetic Got to start somewhere though.

My local track is a 10 minute drive and every Wednesday they have the 'run what you brung' sort of event, so I'd like to start getting into drag racing a bit more. I'm just starting out with the 14b I rebuilt and some low-key bolt-ons for my fwd Laser. I just had some questions:

1. It sounds dumb but when do you know to start revving it for the launch? Because you pull up to the line and stage using the amber bulbs. Then you sit and wait for the amber lights to all fall and get to the green. But what is the indicator for when the lights will fall so you know when to start revving it?
Sometimes we stage and then sit for 25 seconds and then sometimes we stage and the lights fall right away. I asked two of the guys that work the track and they looked at me funny and said "just go when it turns green".

2. Also, I wanted to know about the water pit. Do you just pull into the puddle and do a burnout for a second and that's all there is to it? Do you even need to do this with summer street tires?

[Roberti 2G]

Originally Posted by Kreez

I'm a greenhorn when it comes to drag racing, but I went out last year in my n/t Laser and had some fun. I knocked a second off my time with each pass and got down to 17.7 or something pathetic Got to start somewhere though.

My local track is a 10 minute drive and every Wednesday they have the 'run what you brung' sort of event, so I'd like to start getting into drag racing a bit more. I'm just starting out with the 14b I rebuilt and some low-key bolt-ons for my fwd Laser. I just had some questions:

1. It sounds dumb but when do you know to start revving it for the launch? Because you pull up to the line and stage using the amber bulbs. Then you sit and wait for the amber lights to all fall and get to the green. But what is the indicator for when the lights will fall so you know when to start revving it?
Sometimes we stage and then sit for 25 seconds and then sometimes we stage and the lights fall right away. I asked two of the guys that work the track and they looked at me funny and said "just go when it turns green".

2. Also, I wanted to know about the water pit. Do you just pull into the puddle and do a burnout for a second and that's all there is to it? Do you even need to do this with summer street tires?

From my experience it all depends on when both drivers stage is when the tree will drop. I was told by an old timer when u see that last light before green go. Its because the brain and body take too long to react when u actually see green, I go on the third yellow.

2. Dont use water with street tires.

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Originally Posted by Kreez

I'm a greenhorn when it comes to drag racing, but I went out last year in my n/t Laser and had some fun. I knocked a second off my time with each pass and got down to 17.7 or something pathetic Got to start somewhere though.

My local track is a 10 minute drive and every Wednesday they have the 'run what you brung' sort of event, so I'd like to start getting into drag racing a bit more. I'm just starting out with the 14b I rebuilt and some low-key bolt-ons for my fwd Laser. I just had some questions:

1. It sounds dumb but when do you know to start revving it for the launch? Because you pull up to the line and stage using the amber bulbs. Then you sit and wait for the amber lights to all fall and get to the green. But what is the indicator for when the lights will fall so you know when to start revving it?
Sometimes we stage and then sit for 25 seconds and then sometimes we stage and the lights fall right away. I asked two of the guys that work the track and they looked at me funny and said "just go when it turns green".

2. Also, I wanted to know about the water pit. Do you just pull into the puddle and do a burnout for a second and that's all there is to it? Do you even need to do this with summer street tires?

Usually as soon as both driver's are fully staged the lights will start to fall. Proper drag racing etiquette though is not to "stage" (both amber lights at the top) until both drivers are "pre-staged" (the first amber light).

As for the water box, drive around it if they will let you. If they make you drive through it just do a quick little spin just to clear the water off. Burnouts with street tires are a waste at best and can actually hurt your time at worst.

So the way it should work out is: you pull up in your lane and wait until they wave you forward. You dive around the water box and prestage while your opponent is doing his 2 minute burnout in his mustang. Once he pre-stages, you will both stage at the same time. As soon as you stage start revving up to your desired RPM. The lights will fall and you should slip the clutch out and go on the last yellow light. If you are spinning, give it less throttle.

I ran a 16.1 on my N/T with a catback, intake, and fresh OEM plugs and wires. Good luck!

[99boostedgst]

95 get here in Wichita,KS. How you all doing?

[shortydtp]

we need to get Dsm back on the map with street outlaw Fwd

SP- OUTLAW CC RECORD - YouTube

[toppertopper]

I will be tossing a run , down in august some time if all goes well ,Just waiting for my injectors and dsm link ..Then tune it

[97gst5887]

My best so far is a 13.7 @ 105 with a 2.3 60ft. Running a evo3 at 23psi, stock cams and street tires. Rebuilding right now but will have 9:1 pistons an a PTE 6262 when I'm done with it.

[Gearhead4G63]

Originally Posted by alex209

126? This a typo

106 my bad.

[Kreez]

Really good tips guys. Thanks a bunch!

[SpiderGST]

Should be purchasing my GCS S3 cams and GCS Spring and Retainer set next week. Man I'm getting so close I can taste it. I have to go to car shows or come on here and look at pics for motivation. It starts slipping after the car being down so long. I am still trying to decide if I want a CC twin disc or Clutch Masters Twin Disk. Wonder which is better out of the two. I will probably got CC just dont know yet. Any one of yall running a Twin Disk setup?

[Dsmkauai]

Just a quick vid I put together of the 12.4 pass from the weekend enjoy. I'll be putting a better one together of this seasons progress once it's over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssw30...e_gdata_player

[xxNocturnalxx]

^ Not a fan of music that drowns out the car but good vid anyway. That's what I like to see, not talking it, but doing it, only a couple sentences and a video or pics speaks the rest. This gives me hope for my fwd. Do you know how much power you're making by chance?

[coltboostin]

Originally Posted by shortydtp

we need to get Dsm back on the map with street outlaw Fwd
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I think I need to build another.

monster colt! - YouTube

This was in testing-only 28 psi, no launch, on 22 inch slicks...

[Dsmkauai]

Originally Posted by xxNocturnalxx

^ Do you know how much power you're making by chance?

Just by going off ecmlink It's somewhere around 280-320hp. We have a dyno here at the collage so I'd like to try and run the car on it. But either way the setup is really good now, with bc272 added its what was missing. The 16g was flowing 36lb/min @ 18psi so id say that's great for that turbo. But I know that its also maxed and think it's time for the h1c I have. Planning to have it ready for next months races.

[xxNocturnalxx]

Nice, I run a very similar setup and hope to get the times you're pulling off next month when I plan to take it to the track.

[richard33]

I'll be up and running around September. I have to get the tranny rebuilt and buy some rims for my new slicks. Im shooting for mid to bottom 10s with the auto fully dialed in.

[richard33]

Originally Posted by an orange crayon

cant find a clean awd dsm? thats when you have to buckle down and and get your hands dirty, find one some and build a nice clean awd dsm thats where im at its sucks not being able to just drive it rite now! but hey in the end the pride of knowing YOU built a clean awd dsm..... nothing will compare.

You know he made that post in 2005 and hasn't been on this website since 2007..

[shortydtp]

Originally Posted by coltboostin

I think I need to build another.

monster colt! - YouTube

This was in testing-only 28 psi, no launch, on 22 inch slicks...

yes! on 26" slicks and 72mm!

[Dsmkauai]

GS-T vs GSX - YouTube

[Pipnorcali]

Nice

[1SLOW93TURBO]

UPDATE

I need to plumb my a2w tank lines and then I plan to make some passes two fridays from now at a lower power level due to injector size ( ID1000's) but plan to be making 650ish. I will post up results. I'm gonna try to get FIC 2150's or ID2000's before then but not sure I can swing it. The Sinister level 4 converter is loose as expected but does allow me to easily spool the s372r to 10 psi on the foot brake in less than 2.5 seconds. I know the top end will be effected but it'll work for now until I can get it sent back or purchase another one.

[codeofdastreets]

Originally Posted by coltboostin

I think I need to build another.

monster colt! - YouTube

This was in testing-only 28 psi, no launch, on 22 inch slicks...

this was yours??

[RichardB]

Set a new PB today
10.369 @ 149.16, but my 60' times are crap.

What spring rates do all you FWD guys run?

FTO 10.369 @ 149.16 - YouTube

[1SLOW93TURBO]

Making progress! Started dialing in the Laser tonight on E85 and I am very happy so far. 70 to 90 mph in 1.54 seconds starting at 2.4 psi and ending at only 18.5 psi and 0 to 103 mph pedaling 1st and 2nd in 4.46 seconds at 17.38 psi. Not to shabby in my opinion. Now the kicker...... gotta get it to the ground in 1st-2nd!!!

Going to the track Friday to start the fwd launch adventure

[xxNocturnalxx]

0-103 in 4.4 sec.?

[MJcanada]

Originally Posted by xxNocturnalxx

0-103 in 4.4 sec.?

yeah I think we need a video

[1SLOW93TURBO]

Think about it..... my old car went went 0-116 in 6.54 seconds in the 1/8th so it cant be too far off if any. I have it in a log and hope to get a go pro soon.

[SpiderGST]

I want to see this especially on a fwd. If it is true how in the hell are you getting traction.

[MJcanada]

Originally Posted by 1SLOW93TURBO

Think about it..... my old car went went 0-116 in 6.54 seconds in the 1/8th so it cant be too far off if any. I have it in a log and hope to get a go pro soon.

Not saying it isn't true just want a video! Lol

[RichardB]

yeah Im doing 0-115 in 7 on a drag track.
The fastest FWD cars in the UK are only doing 0-115 in 6.5