I am probably going to the shootout and I hope to see the beast in action.
I'll definitely have it there. I'll be at Buschur's bright and early on Saturday, and even though we're camping at the Milan travel park, there's a solid chance I'll still be making my rounds through the hotels.
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Originally Posted by Slippi84
See Paul I told you a while ago lose the flames out the muffler get a better wing and people will start hopping on the bandwagon lol j/k. I def agree this is def a car worthy of praise even without huge HP numbers it's ahead of the curve and innovative.
The flame thrower was just to prove some co-workers that it was possible. Even though it worked, it was a horrible idea because it washed the walls so badly. But, I proved them wrong. And the wing and the front bumper was a long time coming.
Thanks for the compliments, Sean. Come say hi on Saturday at Dave's.
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Originally Posted by jking29
I can't wait to see it there again this year! Any chance of seeing it make a pass?
No Norwalk racing for me this year. I plan on driving it there and back, so I can't risk breaking it or blowing it up - at least not that far from home.
And I know I wouldn't be very competitive with it either. My full weight street car would be stuck in the Quick 16 class, and they'd eat me alive.
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-Paul Volk-
'99 GSX
'91 TSI
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I'll definitely have it there. I'll be at Buschur's bright and early on Saturday, and even though we're camping at the Milan travel park, there's a solid chance I'll still be making my rounds through the hotels.
The flame thrower was just to prove some co-workers that it was possible. Even though it worked, it was a horrible idea because it washed the walls so badly. But, I proved them wrong. And the wing and the front bumper was a long time coming.
Thanks for the compliments, Sean. Come say hi on Saturday at Dave's.
No Norwalk racing for me this year. I plan on driving it there and back, so I can't risk breaking it or blowing it up - at least not that far from home.
And I know I wouldn't be very competitive with it either. My full weight street car would be stuck in the Quick 16 class, and they'd eat me alive.
Yeah I will def be making my rounds to your car and you. That's next sat though
I finally got my boost turned up via a Hallman MBC. It's now spiking 40 psi at 4500 RPMs and it slowly falls to 35 psi by 8K. Holy hell, it's fast now. I'll share a log hopefully by the end of this week. Link shows I picked up almost 20 lbs/min with this boost increase.
Mind telling us your peak airflow numbers in lb/min?
I don't have the back half of my MAFcomp table calibrated properly yet, so the airfow number that I see if inflated a bit. Once I get it dialed in and displaying properly, I'll share.
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-Paul Volk-
'99 GSX
'91 TSI
99 GST Racer ..... I watched your video's on youtube racing that guy from a roll. It looks similar to most other DSM and EVO racing video's in the fact that it was your top end that won the races. Would you say that the performance of this set up was worth all the effort you went through? There's obviously only so much I could see from your video's, so even though I can't see the difference in low end grunt doesn't mean it's not there.
I love the thought of a BC 2.6 stroker motor for lots of low RPM torque. But 2 turbo's under the hood looks pretty nice also........
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stock block on N20 and loving it.
Would you say that the performance of this set up was worth all the effort you went through?
Most definitely. It was worth every penny and every minute of work invested. The benefits of a compound turbo set-up are even more apparant at 40 psi. I was only running 27 psi in the video that you saw.
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-Paul Volk-
'99 GSX
'91 TSI
a turbo is not a volume multiplier. that would be impossible. a turbo multiplies pressure. volume is reduced in size. the opposite of multiplication. mass does not change. whatever mass goes in a turbo must come out.
and what happens when you multiply pressure to say, double that of the same area (intake manifold for instance) when you increase pressure (full purpose of FI) it creates more volume of air. you are compacting that ratio, no matter what amount in and out, into a smaller space, which is actually increasing the air volume that space could originally hold, right? im not saying the flow in has to equal flow out, im saying STOP NUKING IT! as far as i know, neither one of you went to MIT, so stop arguing the point, you are ruining half the thread (at least pages 2-5) but this thing will work. i have no doubt in that. oh i got to page 13 and it does run! also, you dont need 1400 lb-ft of torque to turn tires in an off road vehicle going INTO the the axle to make 1400 after, do you? its a mulitplier also...
No he didnt... I tried to get ride but the drinks got in the way lol... My buddy travis said it is the fastest thing he has every been in lol... He didnt even try the dyno because buschurs dyno is not designed for lowered cars... I couldnt make it on, my exhaust flange caught the lip of the dyno
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-=John Whalen=-
WH1C w/ .55ar BEP
You're 2.0l, right? The boost threshold is slightly lower than mine on an S300 and 2.4l stroker with a cammed 1g head
Hats off to ya, what an awesome setup. Made on the cheap too
Yup. Still rocking a 2.0L 7-bolt.
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I saw pictures of your car at the SO Paul, did you run it?!
No, I didn't run it. I drove the car to Ohio, and didn't have a trailer lined up in case I broke it on the track. My dyno day is 2 weeks out. I'll be taking it to my local track shortly after that.
How did yours do at the Showdown, Kevin?
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No he didnt... I tried to get ride but the drinks got in the way lol... My buddy travis said it is the fastest thing he has every been in lol... He didnt even try the dyno because buschurs dyno is not designed for lowered cars... I couldnt make it on, my exhaust flange caught the lip of the dyno
Yeah, I still owe you a ride in it, John.
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'99 GSX
'91 TSI
I had traction problems all day, never got a full run without lifting. Coasted to some low 10s at 100 mph. It went 8s the friday before though, so I'm dying to see some good results on your setup as well. I can understand not running it without a trailer with the unkowns that come with the low rpm boost.
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Kevin Jewer
-2005 EVO RS
-1992 Talon RWD
This car is too much fun. Paul gave me a ride at the shootout and all I can say is damn. 1st and 2nd gear are insane. To all of the people who thought that it wouldn't work, haha
To all of the people who thought that it wouldn't work, haha
I agree. The doubters make me laugh. Here's a video showing it working pretty well on my car last week. Paul is the original here, I got the idea from him, but I had to try it myself and see what would happen. So far the results are very promising, and I can't wait to see how his car does.
This is with a 50 trim and a T6 75mm S400. Boost curve goes vertical at 4000 rpm, I leave the line with ~30 psi at 5000 rpm, no more nitrous.
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Kevin Jewer
-2005 EVO RS
-1992 Talon RWD
I didn't do a very good job documenting this project, and it went through several revisions, but some random pics are here. Most of them were to help JMF make the manifold, add wastegates, etc.
I didn't do a very good job documenting this project, and it went through several revisions, but some random pics are here. Most of them were to help JMF make the manifold, add wastegates, etc.
I didn't really look at Paul's setup closely, but I got a good look at yours now. So the t3 get's exhaust gas and passes it on to the t6 turbo. When the t3 turbo's wastegate opens it just bypasses the t3 and goes straight to the t6. When does the first wasegate at the t3 open? The t3 pulls air from the t6? So air from the t6 gets recompressed by the t3? Just trying to figure out exactly whats going on.
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~Mark
97' Evo III 16G Powered Eagle Talon
I didn't really look at Paul's setup closely, but I got a good look at yours now. So the t3 get's exhaust gas and passes it on to the t6 turbo. When the t3 turbo's wastegate opens it just bypasses the t3 and goes straight to the t6. When does the first wasegate at the t3 open? The t3 pulls air from the t6? So air from the t6 gets recompressed by the t3? Just trying to figure out exactly whats going on.
There's more detail on the concept itself early on in the thread, but that's pretty much correct. In my case, the big turbo compresses the air 2 to 1. Then the small turbo compresses it again 2 to 1. The pressure ratios multiply so you get 4 to 1, or 45 psi in the manifold. The small turbo wastagates around 28 psi. The large turbo is making 17. Actual PRs are 1.8 and 2.2.
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Kevin Jewer
-2005 EVO RS
-1992 Talon RWD
I think he was having too many little issues with it to make it to the dyno. Don't worry though, he is still heavily motivated to make it to the dyno and the track this year before snow falls.
And the wing and the front bumper was a long time coming. 
quit teasing everyone 
