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Compressor Surge!!

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IPT

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Mar 31, 2002
Des Moines, Iowa
Ok Pop Quiz time. How to get rid of Compressor surge. I have a Mini-Mutt turbo. It is my 14B turbo that has a clipped turbine wheel with a garret 1905 compressor wheel in it. I have never had this problem before, until I installed my PMS unit with the blow through MAF (VERY NICE:D ) I am getting compressor surge in 4th or 5th gear when I am too lazy to down shift to pass slow people. It is surging below 3500 rpms and then it will clear up.

Mods:
FMIC + piping
PMS + MAF
650cc injectors
fuel pump
3" O2 eliminator turbo back exhaust.
Some other things I for get about.

What can I do to help it not to surge?? I have a couple of ideas I just want to see what every one else thinks..
 
What BOV to you have? you need to adjust it softer.

Later,
 
It is a crushed 1G BOV. I am only running 18psi. It do not hear the flutter until it gets over 14 psi I do not hear it at high rpms. It just pulls like a train.
 
You will only hear it at low throttle low rpm's where the BOV cannot vent that little of air. You will not be able to stop it unless you:

1. Get a new BOV-Something adjustable(greddy type-s, TurboXS RFL)
2. Get a new 1g not crushed
3. Never run light throttle or lower boost.

Later,
 
You said in your first post that it happens below 3500 rpms. bottom line you will need a new BOV.


Late,
 
I hear it under WOT under 3500 rpms. Like when you lazily go to pass some one and let the turbo spool. That is when I hear it. I have an uncrushed 1G BOV. Try that first right?? I have just been putting off getting the Greddy until after I do the motor.

I just don't understand why the BOV is the problem under 3500 rpms at WOT in the taller gears... I am missing something... HELP!!
 
Well I'm not that familiar with a PMS but I would try the uncrushed BOV first, then look at the PMS.

Later,
 
In the upper gearing, there is a much bigger load on the engine. You will build boost A hell of a lot quicker than in the lower gears. It is not uncommon for my T-25 to hit 16 psi of boost at 2300 in 4th if I am crusing around 2k. (Although my T-25 hits 16 psi by 2800 in second too ;))

More load = quicker boost = lower flutter limit.
 
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