G64B same as 4g64 crank?

[LaserRST]

After doing a search I found that the g64b block can be used with the 4g63 head. What I would like to know if the crank can be used with the 4g63 block. I found one at the junk yard today and wanna pull it tomorrow. Any hybrid pros info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance...

 

[LaserRST]

Well I spent 4 hours taking the crank out. But I am still wondering if this crank will work. Are there numbers on the crank I need to look for? Any help would be nice... any help

 

[sunflashx]

Yes, the g64b has a 2.4L 6 bolt crank.

 

[gSx_r1der]

After doing a search I found that the g64b block can be used with the 4g63 head. What I would like to know if the crank can be used with the 4g63 block. I found one at the junk yard today and wanna pull it tomorrow. Any hybrid pros info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance...

You dont need a hybird pro, and if you do need one he is located at the top right of your screen, his name on here is "SEARCH" But now to buisness, yes you can put that "g46b"(which is the correct engine code) crank in your (6-bolt only)4g63 block. Now that would only give you a 2.3XX something displacement and would require you to bore out your 4g63. If you went with the whole g46b shortblock and did a full rebuild on it you would aquire something like a 2.4xx (closer to 2.5l) displacemnet. I am going either tom afternoon or tuesday afternoon to go pull my g46b shortblock so that I can gang rape it for everything But I will be going with the g46b (6-bolt block), 1g nt head and a hyundai valve cover very stealth

 

[carwizard1]

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100677&highlight=g64b

Try looking here. Oh you do not need to bore the 4g63 to put the 2.4 crank in. You do have to clearance the block and the main cap bridge. It makes a 2.1L not a 2.3xxx. It's a 2.3 with the same rods and different pistons.

 

[ISUJakey]

Yes, the g64b has a 2.4L 6 bolt crank.

This is a little off from the question at hand however you had better watch your information. There have been a few reports that the two cranks are in fact different. Mitch(Suprata) @ Engintecs has mentioned before that the Hyundai crank has a lower hardness number than the Mitsu crank along with some other potential variables. I would recommend getting ahold of him if LaserRST wants first hand information.

 

[KJS1820]

You will get 2.3xx out of the 2.4 crank with 4g63 rods you don't need to bore if it is within spec but you will have to at least hone it! For my build it was easier to get oversized pistons since they were shelf stocked! and i didn't have to wait to have forged

 

[gSx_r1der]

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100677&highlight=g64b

Try looking here. Oh you do not need to bore the 4g63 to put the 2.4 crank in. You do have to clearance the block and the main cap bridge. It makes a 2.1L not a 2.3xxx. It's a 2.3 with the same rods and different pistons.

the cranks are close!!! But you will need to use Hyundai bearings with the Hyundai crank and mitsu bearings with the mitsu crank they ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE! You will get 2.3xx out of the 2.4 crank with 4g63 rods you don't need to bore if it is within spec but you will have to at least hone it! For my build it was easier to get oversized pistons since they were shelf stocked! and i didn't have to wait to have forged

Alright first of all if you read the first post, you'll see that this gentleman said and I quote:

After doing a search I found that the g64b block can be used with the 4g63 head. What I would like to know if the crank can be used with the 4g63 block. I found one at the junk yard today and wanna pull it tomorrow. Any hybrid pros info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance...

That would mean that he wants to take the crank out,hence the "putting the g4cs crank in the 63", like the above red ink says. Which would mean, he is putting a 2.4l crank in a 2.0l block, so there for he would be getting a 2.1 or 2.2 but just by simply dropping a 2.4l crank in a stock block with stock rods and pistons, which will by now means get you a 2.3, you will have to bore out the block and get stroker pistons to get this 2.3l stroker. Now if you used the 2.4 block with the 2.4 crank you would get a 2.4l engine, and if you use the 2.4l block with the 63 crank you will also receive a destroked 2.1 or 2.2(dont quote me on which one). So there you have. And who ever reported me for misinforamtion step and and be recognized.

 

[ISUJakey]

Seriously guys, for this thread to be as accurate as possible, stop referring to the g46b crank and the 4G64 cranks both as 4G64 cranks. Along the same long, please refer to the block identifications in the same way. All it does it cause confusion when the correct terms are not used.

 

[KJS1820]

You have to use stroker pistons with the 2.4 cranks or the longer stroke will crash the piston into the head! The piston pins are moved towards the dome to compensate To get a 2.1 liter you have to use a 2.4 block with a 88 mm 2.0 crank with longer rods!

 

[gSx_r1der]

You have to use stroker pistons with the 2.4 cranks or the longer stroke will crash the piston into the head! The piston pins are moved towards the dome to compensate To get a 2.1 liter you have to use a 2.4 block with a 88 mm 2.0 crank with longer rods!

Just as I said earliar!!

 

[KJS1820]

Sorry for taking up more space I couldn't get the quote to work but I was trying to back you up gsx r1der

 

[ISUJakey]

Yea.....who are you speaking of??

You.

he is putting a 2.4l crank in a 2.0l block

He is not using a 2.4 crank, he is using a g46b crank.

 

[gSx_r1der]

You.



He is not using a 2.4 crank, he is using a g46b crank.

Wow WTF , dude you need to do a lot more reading in these forums and do more research before posting a dumb ass statement such as, "he is not using a 2.4 crank" what the hell do you think a g46B crank is????It came out of the 85-88 galants and some vans. All you have to do without looking like an ass is read, and to make the world a more knowledgable place I have included a link for the reading disabled(ISUJAKEY).
http://roadraceengineering.com/mitsumotorapplications.htm

^^^^^^^^^^^This site has all the info you need on which block is which.

 

[ISUJakey]

Wow WTF , dude you need to do a lot more reading in these forums and do more research before posting a dumb ass statement such as, "he is not using a 2.4 crank" what the hell do you think a g46B crank is????It came out of the 85-88 galants and some vans. All you have to do without looking like an ass is read, and to make the world a more knowledgable place I have included a link for the reading disabled(ISUJAKEY).
http://roadraceengineering.com/mitsumotorapplications.htm

^^^^^^^^^^^This site has all the info you need on which block is which.

Wow WTF , dude, you need to do a lot more reading in this thread and take note at what I previously posted:

This is a little off from the question at hand however you had better watch your information. There have been a few reports that the two cranks are in fact different. Mitch(Suprata) @ Engintecs has mentioned before that the Hyundai crank has a lower hardness number than the Mitsu crank along with some other potential variables. I would recommend getting ahold of him if LaserRST wants first hand information.

Plus there's this:

the cranks are close!!! But you will need to use Hyundai bearings with the Hyundai crank and mitsu bearings with the mitsu crank they ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE!

Then again, since according to you I'm just making myself look like an ass versus trying to get information presented in the most accurate form as possible, I'll STFU and let you continue on.

 

[gSx_r1der]

Hey ISUjakey, I hear what you said about the two cranks being different between the hyundai and mits, but they are still 2.4, you said they arent. I heard what you said about hardness and bearings, but they are still a 2.4. I agree with you do more research before just going to go grab any 2.4 g46b cause there are different ones such as the rwd engine has a bigger bell housing than the fwd galnats do. So what you said in your first comment was correct about getting more info on just which g46b you are trying to go pick up, but the fact remains that a 2.3 is a 4g63 block with overbored size pistons and a 2.4 crank, and a 2.4 block is a g46b,4g64,and g4cs. So my only argument was the people saying a 2.3 doesnt need to be overbored and that a g46b isnt a 2.4. You can help out all you want but just confirm with your sources that your info is correct instead of just posting and not being sure but you heard from someone on some thread about some topic before. Keep helping people and refering people, its the only way we keep this dsm love alive, by helping another person with topics that we have knowledge on, and to the previos poster of this thread all you had to do was search man, you would have found your answer in a shorter amount of time than it took to post this question.

 

[ISUJakey]

you said they arent.

My justification for this comment....

Seriously guys, for this thread to be as accurate as possible, stop referring to the g46b crank and the 4G64 cranks both as 4G64 cranks. Along the same long, please refer to the block identifications in the same way. All it does it cause confusion when the correct terms are not used.

....is that when referred to as a 2.4 crank, there is no inference to the actual source of the crank (Hyundai or Mitsu) which can lead to problems. That is why I said in the above comment that the two cranks and respective blocks need to be referred to correctly.

You can help out all you want but just confirm with your sources that your info is correct instead of just posting and not being sure but you heard from someone on some thread about some topic before.

Confirm with my sources, OK:
1) Mitch Rusu(Suprata) is a Tuners Wiseman and wrenchs at EnginTecs.
2) I didn't hear it from some random person, it was posted directly by Mitch on another board.
3)I explicitly said,

I would recommend getting ahold of him if LaserRST wants first hand information.

No where did I say that I the information I posted above was from my personal, hands-on contact. I repeated information directly from what Mitch posted, credited him with the information, and suggested an outreach for further information. I suppose I could mention that Mitch's website is www.engintecs.com and his contact information is available on there.

 

[gSx_r1der]

My justification for this comment....

....is that when referred to as a 2.4 crank, there is no inference to the actual source of the crank (Hyundai or Mitsu) which can lead to problems. That is why I said in the above comment that the two cranks and respective blocks need to be referred to correctly.



Confirm with my sources, OK:
1) Mitch Rusu(Suprata) is a Tuners Wiseman and wrenchs at EnginTecs.
2) I didn't hear it from some random person, it was posted directly by Mitch on another board.
3)I explicitly said,

No where did I say that I the information I posted above was from my personal, hands-on contact. I repeated information directly from what Mitch posted, credited him with the information, and suggested an outreach for further information. I suppose I could mention that Mitch's website is www.engintecs.com and his contact information is available on there.

Alright cool, back to the topic of this thread, yes you can drop that crank, depending on the source of the crank into your 4g63 block.

 

[DSMJim]

Guys stop the banter back and forth or this will get locked.

What is the most funny to me is that both of you reported the other as spreading mis-information.

 

[ISUJakey]

Guys stop the banter back and forth or this will get locked.

What is the most funny to me is that both of you reported the other as spreading mis-information.

Where ya been Jim, we stopped bitching at each other two days ago.

 

[gSx_r1der]

And yea I did get reported for misinformation when I didnt give any. So how do you get that sh*t off, dsmjim????

 

[scottsee]

You can also use the G4CS 89-92 4cy Hyundai Sonata Crankshaft as a 6bolt 100mm Crankshaft.

 

[sunflashx]

This is a little off from the question at hand however you had better watch your information. There have been a few reports that the two cranks are in fact different. Mitch(Suprata) @ Engintecs has mentioned before that the Hyundai crank has a lower hardness number than the Mitsu crank along with some other potential variables. I would recommend getting ahold of him if LaserRST wants first hand information.

g64b + 6 bolt 4g64 motors have the same mitsubishi part number. The post you refer to, you probably shouldn't be refering to, depending on which "other message board" it is that you refer to. Rule #1.

As far as I know only Mitsubishi uses those two engine codes as opposed to the Hyundai g4cs. As per Mitch's claim that you cite, the difference is between Mitsubishi and Hyundai manufacturing.

Even so, my original post is 2 years old. !

 

[gSx_r1der]

g64b + 6 bolt 4g64 motors have the same mitsubishi part number. The post you refer to, you probably shouldn't be refering to, depending on which "other message board" it is that you refer to. Rule #1.

As far as I know only Mitsubishi uses those two engine codes as opposed to the Hyundai g4cs. As per Mitch's claim that you cite, the difference is between Mitsubishi and Hyundai manufacturing.

Even so, my original post is 2 years old. !

I agree with ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[ISUJakey]

The post you refer to, you probably shouldn't be refering to, depending on which "other message board" it is that you refer to. Rule #1.

It's not classified information so I don't see any relevance behind what you're saying but that's besides the point.

g64b + 6 bolt 4g64 motors have the same mitsubishi part number. ...As far as I know only Mitsubishi uses those two engine codes as opposed to the Hyundai g4cs. As per Mitch's claim that you cite, the difference is between Mitsubishi and Hyundai manufacturing.

I apologize for my error in wording, my point was directed towards the g4cs/ Mitsu vs. Hyundai manufacturing.

Even so, my original post is 2 years old. !

So? I was not the member who chose to resurrect it.