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BOV Dump Mod, Anyone Done?

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GhostSpooLrTK

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BOV Return / Dump Tube Reduction

There is a tube which extends deep into the turbo intake after the MAS which blocks a significant portion of the turbo's inlet. This is the Blow Off Valve (BOV) dump tube. This tube carries the air purged by the BOV during shifting back into the turbo. The problem however, is that it blocks off so much of the intake that it posses a serious restriction to an already intake limited engine. The fix is the cut or replace this tube with something shorter to open the intake a little more.

There have been some theories about the utility of this tube. A few people have suggested that it is located where it is to use the out rushing air to help keep the turbo spooled (like blowing into a pin wheel). Though this has some merit theoretically, I haven't noticed any reduction in boost response between shifts, nor has anyone else. Further more, the improved flow of the intake from removing this restriction seems to have helped hold boost at the higher RPMs and appears to have even helped throttle response. The theory for that being that the improved flow helps the turbo suck in air easier.

There haven't been any definitive (read: time / dyno tests) but the theoretical negatives have not been observed just like there is no hard proof of the benefits. However, there is one effect which I have personally noted, and is the basis for my theory as to the tubes existence. Upon removal of the tube I noted a significant change in the BOV sound. Not really louder just deeper; less whistly. So my theory is simple: The tube is there, like many other seemingly silly designs, to reduce noise. Why you ask? Elementary my dear Watson, most people, like Mr. Jon Q. Public) don't appreciate or understand, and are afraid of the noises made by most turbo vehicles. Hell, one of my ex's even commented, "Wow I would be worried if my car made a noise like that," and no amount of explaining would convince her that it was OK. I bet you wonder why she is an ex. :)

Anyone ever done this? I tried looking it up in the FAQ/How Tos, but it wouldnt load, he says it will incearse throttle response, is that true? or anyone know where i can find a guide on doing this????
 
i did it and my throttle response increased a little, and the bov sounded much louder.

To do it: take off your intake pipe and just cut the thing out of the inside of the pipe. You can use a saw, a dremel (best), a knife... whatever gets the job done. it doesn't have to be perfect or pretty, just get the piece out. Then just hook everything back up. While you have your intake pipe out it is a good tiime to take out your BCS restrictor too. With those two free mods you car will be noticably more responsive.
 
u got any pics of how it looks, when its all finished? im not exactly sure what u guys mean.


john
 
Did it made the BOV louder (if that's your thing go for it) and that was it, other than that I just did it because I was bored. Didn't do anything fancy either, just grinded halfway through the hard part of the tube on the inside of the intake and then snapped it off. Then I put in my ABS intake a week later... Not even really worth getting your hands dirty.
 
could some one write up a how to? or at least post a pic? BTW when i had my intake pipe out i didn't notice the dump tube/hose going into the intake pipe at all seemed to be flush to me... or am i thinking of the wrong thing?


Never mind i see it's only a 2G problem :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by talonted_one
i did it
didnt see a gain
i dont really care about sound
i say do it because its an intake restriction
bingo. i was waiting for some good ol logic in this post.
 
-You first remove the air filter
-Loosen the clamps holden the MAS
-Unplug the MAS Take the filter and MAS set them aside
-Unscrew the clamps on both ends of the hose that comes out of the BOV
*You may need to remove the Coolant overflow bottle*
-Remove the turbo intake hose (GENTLY stuff a clean rag into the TURBO HOUSING)


The tube looks like an S Its from the BOV to the turbo intake hose. Cant miss is.

Once you have the intake hose removed you'll see the stock tube is in there about 10inches.
(Heres the MOD)
-Cut that tube in half or until your pleased leaving alittle visible.

Connect everything correctly and your set.
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BEWARE
96+ Eclipse
Once done properly Theres hesitation at idle. That soon is gone once your rollin. After about 10 mins of driving your check engine light may come on.
-Easy fix the driver side fusebox, remove the ecu 10a fuse. leave out for 15secs. That resets the ecl.
-Ive heard a 2-3psi gain from the mod...... Not for sure tho.

-This mod is intended with an aftermarket BOV, If you still have stock its ok, just dont go boosting over 12psi with that BOV :D
 
I've finally took out the BCS and cut out the dump tube. I'm not sure if it made my bov louder, which i think it shouldn't matter. but I could feel little more power at mid-rpm. I won't know unless i take it to the dyno for exact amount. I read from somewhere saying something like if you remove the BCS, then it will gain 2-3 psi above stock, which i believe at 12psi. Someone let me know if i'm wrong.... just curious....
 
If you can't do this without instructions than you shouldn't be allowed to work on an automobile....
 
Yeah theres no big change in the sound. If anything its alittle deeper between shifts. or "blow" when let off on the gas for auto.

2-3 psi ive heard no proof yet... Cant wait until you dyno it :D
 
Originally posted by whitegst
I've finally took out the BCS and cut out the dump tube. I'm not sure if it made my bov louder, which i think it shouldn't matter. but I could feel little more power at mid-rpm. I won't know unless i take it to the dyno for exact amount. I read from somewhere saying something like if you remove the BCS, then it will gain 2-3 psi above stock, which i believe at 12psi. Someone let me know if i'm wrong.... just curious....


Actuaully you don't remove the BCS, you remove a little piece of plastic in the lower nipple...a restrictor. And yes it gives you a few more psi, I went from .8 BAR to 1 BAR on my boost gauge after removing the restictor.

As far as the dump tube...I took mine out but after all was said and done, I wished I wouldn't have touched it. I ended up getting an Injen intake about three weeks after I did it. You need to ask yourself a little question. What is my goal with the car. If you plan on getting a bigger turbo, leave the intake alone. You'll need an aftermarket intake if you run anything bigger than a T-28/16G. So what's the point in hacking. You won't see any gains, and like stated before, all it does is make the air less restricive...yippee with the stock T25 or 14G.
 
about removing the bcs restrictor... When I had everything in my mods, except for the boost controller and fuel pump, I was running the stock bcs with the restrictor removed, I still only got ~10psi, so it doesn't allways add alot of power/boost increase. My turbo did spool quicker with it removed though.
 
I think its mainly about getting much as you can out of a stock setup before the fun starts. I mean come on its a restriction issue that people are getting around no matter how petty it is.
 
ok, i have a near stock gst. I have a 1gen crushed BOV, and I just did this mod, and I swear it sound a lot better, not louder, and not ricey, but better. and i can tell a lil bit of increase in throttle response. I am all for this mod. and it took like 10 minutes to do! that's just my two pennies!
 
its not, at least i dont think it is for 1g's i know my car runs like SHAT, at idle any way, with the dump tube off...
 
i didn't say anything about taking the tube off. mine idle'd rough too. what i said was about cutting some of the dump tube that's inside the intake pipe off!! that helped a lot.
 
well on a 1g its just a big nipple that the hose pushes onto, nothing in the way of the air flow
 
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