Almost done, Timing belt inquiries

[UltraImports]

So after an extensive rebuild of my talon, I'm down to the timing belt. I was told that you need a chain wrench, which is not a common tool at our local auto parts store, to take off the crank pulley. Is it absolutely necessary to use this tool? Is there an alternate method of putting on the timing belt?

BTW, this is my first DSM. I have yet to drive it or test one out, but I've been the passenger in many TEL's and GVR4's. One of the last things I had to do was put the battery in, which I did over the weekend. I hopped in the car and turned on the lights....boy oh boy can I tell you what it feels like to take a non functioning car and getting it running. Even just turning on the lights was wonderful. Ok, back to my question. HELP!

 

[WhipmastaFlex]

i didn't need any special tools of any sort to do the timing job on my DSM. just a metric socket set, a crow bar and some patience

Adam

 

[UltraImports]

well when we tried to get it off, the pulley kept on turning. Is there a way around having to remove the crank pulley, maybe another pulley of some sort?

 

[WhipmastaFlex]

stuff a breaker bar in there, should keep the crank from rotating

Adam

 

[UltraImports]

hmmm. I'll have to give that a shot. Is there another ghetto way to do this as well?

 

[diamondstar36]

If you have access to air tools, I got my crank pulley off with a massive ass impact. To do the timing belt it's generally a good idea to have the "special tool" to press down the tentioner.. But I've done my last 2 belts without it. You could always resort to threading your battery tie down like I did, but it only lasts for one or two jobs. But like I said, it's not required. Easily worked around.

 

[UltraImports]

note to self: find a breaker bar

what's this battery tie down thing?

 

[diamondstar36]

www.vfaq.com answers all on a 1G timing belt job. It explains what the battery tie down mod is to replace the "special tool", which is nothing more than a long threaded bolt.

Also, if you're looking to get the crank pulley loose, DejonTool makes a handle holder that bolts to the pulley itself, then wedges against the frame so you can jump up and down on a breaker bar to your hearts content.

www.dejontool.com

 

[babell2]

At what stage is your rebuild? If the engine is in, prop a breaker bar aganst the suspension and thump the starter to get the bolt loose. With mine I used a piece of wood between the main bearing cap support and the crank to jam the engine from turning over and thumped a wrench with a lead hammer to break the bolt loose. The only down side is if yur engine is still out and the pan is on, or if you have installed everything except the timing belt and the engine is in. I would not thump or turn over teh engine with the head on and no belt. That just costs money!!

 

[UltraImports]

everything is in except for the belt

 

[babell2]

Sometimes getting the right sequence is a pain. You might have to backtrack some to get where you need to go. Turning over the engine with no timing belt installed can to lead into expensive problems

 

[UltraImports]

I just ordered the tool from Dejon. We'll see how it goes when it comes in.

 

[UltraImports]

ok....I just though about this...does this come with the bolts I need to do this? anyone know where I can get these bolts?

 

[DrZiplok]

The Dejon tool reuses the four small bolts that hold the accessory pulley onto the crank.

I have one, but I also used the "breaker bar and starter" approach to remove the crank-end bolt. It's very effective.

 

[wancsta]

I got a question for ya how did you do a "extensive rebuild" and leave the timing belt on I wouldnt say its too 'extensive' if you didn't even pull off the head, anyway to take off your crank pulley get ur 1/2 in breaker bar and ur 12 or 14mm deep socket (I forget which it is right now) put the breaker bar in the center of that "big bolt" then the deep socket on the bolts and pull'em togther the four bolts will break loose before the big one oh yea before you do this make sure your timing is on point (dowel's on cam gears facing up ,marks in cam gears facing eachother and TDC) didn't mean to burn you hope this helps anyway