| Bolt-on Tech Intake, exhaust, intake manifold, ignition, fuel system, cooling, etc - specific to 4G63 turbocharged DSMs. |
04-30-2007, 03:31 PM
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the grade 10 bolts under the tranny on the crossmember torque them to 30 pounds.
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04-30-2007, 05:25 PM
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Crossmeber:
Front 2 bolts at the radiator = 65 ft lb (Factory manual gives no tolerance)
Mid bolt that also ties into gusset = 51-58 ft lb
Gusset bolts:
51-58 ft lb
Upper tranny mount nuts to tranny:
42 ft lb (once again no tolerance)
Shear bolt/nut assembly for lower tranny mount:
42 ft lb (no tolerance listed)
Shear bolt/nut assembly for upper tranny mount:
51 ft lb (no tolerance listed)
You also asked for "2 bolts holding the lower tranny mount to the tranny" This doesnt exist...do you mean "2 bolts holding the lower tranny mount to the crossmember":
If so no torque spec listed. 30-50 ft lb would do it. I snug mine by hand with a 3/8 ratchet, and have had no issues with them backing off.
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Trans Case to Tranny: 40-44 ft lb
Go with the factory shop manual...you won't regret it.
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BTW: All values came from 97 Eclipse/Eclipse Spyder Service Manual Vol1
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08-29-2007, 05:58 PM
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7 bolt motor torque specs.
Im putting my motor back together right now and I cant find my haynes manual.. Ive found plenty of places that show 6 bolt torque specs, but I need the 7 bolt torque specs. Ive noticed that there are differences in the two so if someone has a place where I can find them, that would be great!
Please no "buy a book" responses..
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08-29-2007, 07:50 PM
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What specs are you looking for exactly?
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08-30-2007, 03:41 PM
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crankcase, headbolts, oil pan, flywheel, pressure plate, valve cover, rod bolts. I have some, but I would like to get them from another source to make sure they are correct.
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08-30-2007, 04:12 PM
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Off-hand, I know the valve cover bolts are 2.3-to-2.5 ft.lbs., but you should read through this thread regarding the VC (especially at the end of the first page). Other than that I would have to check. In the future, look into purchasing one of these.
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08-30-2007, 05:24 PM
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Head:
Step 1 Tighten to 58 ft/lbs
Step 2 Losen fully (in reverse order)
Step 3- 14.5 ft/lb
Step 4- 90 degrees
Step 5- 90 more degrees
Camshaft Bearing: 14 ft/lb
Oil Pan: 5 ft/lb
Flywheel: 98 ft/lbs
Connecting rod:
Step 1- 14.5 ft/lbs
Step 2- 90 degrees
Step 3- 100 degrees
am I missing anything?
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09-17-2007, 09:13 AM
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I have the manual, me and my friend were doing the brake pads, I had to change them. When we put back the bolt's, that go in the back, 2 main bolts to take the caliper off, what torque should I set it at? I looked in the manual, and it was like 35 or 45, don't have it infornt of me, so I can't remember exact. But when me and my friend did it, we set it at 16, and it seemed pretty tight, i been driving for 2 days now, it seems tight in there. Can someon double check the torque specs for me, let me know what I need to set it at. they are the lock and guide pins, i beleive that's what they are called. basically caliper mounting bolts.
Thanks a lot guys.
George
Any replies? Can someone help me out please. I just need someone to double check the torque specs on those 2 bolts, please. Thanks guys
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09-17-2007, 11:45 AM
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Front lock and guide pins - 54 ft. lbs.
Rear lock and guide pins - 54 ft. lbs.
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Thanks a lot. that is for the 1997 eagle talon TSI AWD right?
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Yes, it's for a 2G AWD DSM. And you should always follow the torque specs. That is why they made them.
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10-08-2007, 03:35 PM
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torque specifications
hey i have a 7 bolt motor and im looking at the haynes manual and it says
main cap bolts for 2.0l turbo step 1.... 18 ft lbs no biggie deal. Step 2 90-degrees further.... just spin the bolt a extra 90 degress right?......
now step 2 rod cap nuts (stock pistons and rods just redoign the bearings on a old motor)
step 1.... 174 INCH-lbs ... wtf inch pounds my torque wrench and my mechanics torque wrenchs are all FT-lbs.... how much is 174 inch pounds in ft-lbs? also then says to turn 90 degress further... again turn it 90 degress past the 174 inch point? wtf how so confusing on hondas its like 18 ft-lbs and then 36 ft-lbs just straight out please help lol.'
also isnt 18 ft-lbs + the 90 degrees to low? i fiqured it would be in the 40s for torqueing down the main cap bolts
and only 174 / 12 = foot pounds ie.... 14.5 (why so low). and then again another 90 degress? CONFUSING YES....
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Reason: forgot something
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10-08-2007, 07:06 PM
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Yes the inch pounds are directly converted by dividing by 12. And from what you are saying , they are torque to yield bolts. But I was unaware that the rod nuts were. And did you check your Main bolts for stretching? They should be replaced if they have any signs of irregularity. Same with rod nuts and bolts, but they usually are fine. And yes on the 90 degrees (1/4 turn) and remember this is not a honda  I dont have the DSM manual in front of me at the moment but Id double check those torque specs.
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10-08-2007, 08:48 PM
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i took the specs right out of the book
i guess ill just go by the 14.5 for the rod nuts and then a quarter turn...
seems kinda low but wtf the manual says so
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10-08-2007, 09:53 PM
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Go with what it says. You don't want to strip out any threads on delicate parts.
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10-10-2007, 12:20 PM
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Specification help?
Hello Dsmer's I was wondering by any chance can someone tell me what the stock flywheel bolt torque specifications are for the 2G 4G63?
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10-10-2007, 10:35 PM
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hey i also want to know hat ## guys are torqueing ## arp studs down to on the head in the manual again the numbers are a little low and also these are upgraded studs and a cometic head gasket im guessing a lil more torque is in the mix... help me out thanks
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10-11-2007, 12:49 AM
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98 ft-lbs
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10-11-2007, 11:10 AM
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Quote:
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hey i also want to know hat ## guys are torqueing ## arp studs down to on the head in the manual again the numbers are a little low and also these are upgraded studs and a cometic head gasket im guessing a lil more torque is in the mix... help me out thanks
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i have seen some guys torque their arp head bolts to 120-130 ft/lbs and have seen no side effects. But these were on track only cars that dont see much road time at all. ARP i think says torque to about 85 ft/lbs if i remember right.
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10-11-2007, 01:40 PM
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thank you
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10-11-2007, 02:07 PM
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i torque mine to 100 ft lbs. ive done this on all of my motors with no problems
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10-13-2007, 01:18 AM
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For ARPs... if you use ARPs molylube then do a 3 step TQing process( put them in hand tight, then TQ them to 25ft lbs, then loosen, then 50-55ft lbs, then loosen again, then tighten down to 85 ft lbs...this is using molylube for an example), then go drive the car, and heat cycle the motor, then pop the VC back off, then what I did was cracked them loose, then TQed them back to 85 ft lbs.
ARP TQing specs:
With molylube:85 FT LBS
With motor oil as lubricant:90-100 FT LBS
Dry: 115FT LBS (approx. 105, or 110 should be fine)
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10-13-2007, 01:56 AM
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thanks man, appreciate it.
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10-13-2007, 06:51 AM
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