Question about Eclipse RS?

[Deebo16]

I am planning on buying an Eclipse RS from somebody for really cheap. The only thing is that it does not have an engine or transmission. I plan to convert it to stick and I wanted to put in a 4g63 engine in it. This would be my first time ever doing anything with a Mitsubishi so I am very new to this. Is it just a straight drop in to the car or is there more than what I think. Also, the car does not have the engine mounts, so I would need to get new ones also. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I was told by someone that it is a pain and a lot of money to get a different engine into this car because of it being an RS. Thanks for the help

 

[danielbui]

what year?

 

[1993eclipseGS]

It would be cheaper to buy a turbo eclipse. You would need alot of custom fabrication to complete the job, And alot more parts then just the motor. People have discussed this before, If you search, You may be able to find something. Just save up for a turbo eclipse if you want one, It'd be cheaper in the long run.

 

[Deebo16]

It is a 1995 and he is selling me the whole car for $150

 

[danielbui]

the motor that was in there before is the 420A from the neons and so is the wire harness sensors and ECU . the ECU is also located in the engine compartment. if you had the older 1g N/A model it would be 10x easier to do a swap. try and find one of those for the same price it would be beneficial on your part.

 

[truECLIPSE]

if you got deep pockets go for it. Look to spend 5 grand and up for this. The swap takes a lot of time, money, and tons of custom work. If you don't have any knowledge on either engines you should definitely read up or have some one do it for you which is more $.

 

[Deebo16]

Well i will probably look into finding an earlier year motor to put in. I hope that it is not that hard to do and find a motor around me. Thanks for the help and suggesitons.

 

[danielbui]

you need to forget the 95 RS and go with the earlier model eclipse body style 94 and previous. buying the 95rs and putting a 4g63 in is not fun and games it is very time consuming and is not like pulling my motor and swapping for a 6bolt. it is 10x more work and you'll run into problems. buy a 1g N/A body for cheap and do the swap if your wanting a project and that swap has been done alot more than a 420a to 4g63. granted people do the 420A to 4g63 so its your call and money.

 

[rowlex]

the motor that was in there before is the 420A from the neons and so is the wire harness sensors and ECU . the ECU is also located in the engine compartment. if you had the older 1g N/A model it would be 10x easier to do a swap. try and find one of those for the same price it would be beneficial on your part.

you as well as the poster of this thread need to look at pictures of the 95 rs engine bay and ANY 90-94 engine. they are all with exception to the 1.8 mounted on the opposite side of the engine bay.

 

[danielbui]

why don't YOU look at one. a shop here in town has done it on either generations and has stated that the 1g N/A are 10x easier than the 2g N/A so whats your point. trying to flame when someone is giving there general experience. have you done the conversion lately? i haven't but have recieved information from a shop here in town that has. you want to flame, go to the hangout with the kids and have fun. you want to give advise, give positive advise before critisizm. you want to flame on me, PM me don't use up this guys space.

 

[rowlex]

You are giving mis-information, that is not your personal experience. I own a 91 eclipse GSX along with a 96 ESI. You must have misinturpreted the information the shop was giving you. It IS easier to swap a turbo engine into a 1G non-turbo. Definently not easy into a 2G non-turbo. Seriously though, go to the galery and LOOK at a 96 esi and 1G gsx engine. They are completly opposite, the tranny is on the opposite side, the timing belt/waterpump/ENGINE is on the opposite side as a 1G GSX.

 

[danielbui]

i never said the 2g N/A were the same as any 4g63 us spec model. are you ok?

 

[1993eclipseGS]

Well, We already know it is hard. So you do not hafto argue.

The thread starter sounds like he does not really know what he is getting himself into. The best advice you can get right now is to just buy a turbo car.

 

[SBstar]

This is for the original poster if you even check it since its become a flame war. The 420A engine in your RS and the 4G63 are two very different engines. The 4G63 mounts on the opposite side of the engine bay and the swap requires making custom motor mounts, transmission etc. the wiring would also have to be done which wouldn't be any picnic even if you have experience. I have not done this swap. I am going the easy route and purchasing a 1G turbo. The swap has been done but it costs more then its worth according to most who have done it. If you want to keep the car you can just put in a 420A and you could turbo that engine. Hahn and Star make turbo kits for the 420A. The price of the turbo kit will range from around 2000-3000. That plus your engine will probably be more then you could buy even a 2G turbo for. The cost will probably outweigh the outcome. IF you want further information check out the N/T section of the forum.

 

[98spyderboost]

A. Yes it's a huge project on a 2g.
B. If you are getting it for $150 then basically you bought a rolling chassis right?
C. Race? or Street?
D. Race = custom N/S mount the motor and put a power glide and 9" in it
E. Street = Best bet would be to completely strip every wire and bracket from the one you have, buy a totalled 2g with turbo 5spd for bout 800-1000 and start swappin. If you have a really nice junk yard near you go compare..... It can be done.

 

[Defiant]

For $150, grab it up and vulture the hell out of it on eBay. It's amazing what sells on there.

 

[DevilSperm]

For $150, grab it up and vulture the hell out of it on eBay. It's amazing what sells on there.

same thing i was thinkin

 

[Deebo16]

Well what I am probably going to do is find another engine to go into this car and try and make some money on it. Then either try and find a 1g or 2g at a decent price and get that. Thanks everyone for the info. I am actually a HONDA guy, but figured I would hop on this car cause of the price.

 

[Tevenor]

Well what I am probably going to do is find another engine to go into this car and try and make some money on it. Then either try and find a 1g or 2g at a decent price and get that. Thanks everyone for the info. I am actually a HONDA guy, but figured I would hop on this car cause of the price.

Price is good. Your original plans are not but I think you are on the right track now.

You really have 2 options at this point assuming you bought the car to upgrade and to get as much performance as possible out of it.

1) Buy a 420A and build it up for boost. The 420A is actually pretty good NA 4 cylinder engine. Build it up and it can hold a decent amount of hp on a turbo setup. But you are still in a FWD, just like your honda's would be.

2) Drop a used 420A in there and sell it. Use that money to buy a cheap 1G AWD. 4G63 and AWD already there. Just make sure the engine and drivetrain are sound, and off you go.

 

[JiveMasterT]

if i was you i would buy the chassis for $150 then sell it on ebay. someone will buy it for like $300 at least unless the car is in garbage shape. hell the windshield is worth more than $150. so buy it and resell it.

 

[RED&BlackGSX]

I would find a 2.4l out of a dodge intrepid, and turbo-charge that. Buy good pistons, and rods and you should be good to go. 3k worth of motor stuff would make a fine street machine. I would have jumped on it for $150.

 

[mntalon_05]

I would find a 2.4l out of a dodge intrepid, and turbo-charge that. Buy good pistons, and rods and you should be good to go. 3k worth of motor stuff would make a fine street machine. I would have jumped on it for $150.

You must be mistaken, the 2.4 was never offered in the intrepid, the original body style car had only a 3.3 or the 3.5 OHC motor. 2nd gen intrepids had 2.7 and a 3.5 and maybe some other motor, but if I remember right, it was a mitsu motor, not a chrysler one. A stratus 2.4 swap might work, same pcm I believe, but if it's a 95, you might have to run a 95 computer, there was some quirk that made it different from the other years. stock for stock the 2.4 wasn't that much better than the 2.0, but if you're planning on building an n/a monster, a 2.4 would be better, but again, you'd have to talk to the na guys to find out if that motor will even work. best bet? part it out like others have said and buy a cheap 1g and start the modifying!

 

[JiveMasterT]

You must be mistaken, the 2.4 was never offered in the intrepid, the original body style car had only a 3.3 or the 3.5 OHC motor. 2nd gen intrepids had 2.7 and a 3.5 and maybe some other motor, but if I remember right, it was a mitsu motor, not a chrysler one. A stratus 2.4 swap might work, same pcm I believe, but if it's a 95, you might have to run a 95 computer, there was some quirk that made it different from the other years. stock for stock the 2.4 wasn't that much better than the 2.0, but if you're planning on building an n/a monster, a 2.4 would be better, but again, you'd have to talk to the na guys to find out if that motor will even work. best bet? part it out like others have said and buy a cheap 1g and start the modifying!

damn you know your shit.

if i was to swap a motor into it, it would be one of those high revving mopar crate motors and just build something that is completely n/a, and probably use nitrous. id also strip it down to just one seat and minimal dash stuff and make an all out drag monster.