TMO Chip...how to use?

[JoeZ]

I posed this question in the newbie forum, but I think that was the wrong place. I have a socketted '95 eprom with a TMO chip installed (not sure which one). I don't have any manuals or documentation on it at all...so how do I use this thing? I know how to switch the ECUs, but how do I get the features out of the chip? The TMO website was useless...

 

[kpt4321]

Err....

The "features" just change things that would effect your driving. For example, you will no longer get fuel cut.

 

[JoeZ]

but there are other things such as being able to switch the function of the factory boost guage and setting redline RPM limit.

 

[kpt4321]

The TMO website tells you in very plain terms how to do all of that.

 

[JoeZ]

but it's still crappy descriptions. It shows how it works, but not how to set stuff like security codes and all. Also how to setup rev limit and shift rev limits.

I don't want the security feature turned on....the website doesn't say how to disable it.

 

[kpt4321]

You = the suxzor.

Originally posted by JoeZ
but it's still crappy descriptions.

I disagree.

It shows how it works, but not how to set stuff like security codes and all.

You can't set the security code, it's programmed into the ECU. You have to know it to be able to start the car, that is the whole point.

Also how to setup rev limit and shift rev limits.

You can't change them. They're programmed into the ECU.

I don't want the security feature turned on....the website doesn't say how to disable it.

Yes it does.

http://www.tmo.com/prod/eprom/selection.htm#security

 

[brads]

Originally posted by JoeZ
but it's still crappy descriptions. It shows how it works, but not how to set stuff like security codes and all. Also how to setup rev limit and shift rev limits.

I don't want the security feature turned on....the website doesn't say how to disable it.

You can't adjust the rev limit, only the launch limit. The launch limit adjustment is explained in monosyllabic terms on the TMO site.

The security code wasn't available on most 2G chips. It was only available to a few beta testers, not for general production. It says that on the TMO site. Do you even know if yours has it?

Brad

 

[Defiant]

Do not cross-post.

 

[JoeZ]

I installed the ECU with the chip (I found it's a stage 3). The check engine light never blinks, and it DOES have security features. Right now it's locked in Valet mode and won't rev over 3k.

I f the checkengine light isn't blinking, how do I exit security mode? Also, how do I set/find the combination?

 

[brads]

Originally posted by JoeZ
I installed the ECU with the chip (I found it's a stage 3). The check engine light never blinks, and it DOES have security features. Right now it's locked in Valet mode and won't rev over 3k.

I f the checkengine light isn't blinking, how do I exit security mode? Also, how do I set/find the combination?

How are you certain that it has security features, if the CEL isn't blinking? Did the person you buy it from tell you it did? If they told you that it had security features, they would have told you the code right??

Brad

 

[JoeZ]

The code is reset after not having power. It's definately rev limiting at 3000 which is what the Valet mode does. The website does not show how to set the code or change it.

 

[brads]

Originally posted by JoeZ
The code is reset after not having power. It's definately rev limiting at 3000 which is what the Valet mode does. The website does not show how to set the code or change it.

So because its limiting at 3000, it has to be security? It couldn't be say, a launch limiter that is engaging because you have a stage 3 chip, and no clutch wire mod?

And what does it being reset after not having power have to do with it? Are you implying that the code the previous owner had was erased when it lost power? I really hope you don't think that.

Brad

 

[JoeZ]

Look...I obviously don't have enough information on this which is why I posted in the first place. Don't be a dick because I'm requesting some help on something I'm having difficulties with.

Guess I'm on my on with this one.

 

[brads]

Originally posted by JoeZ
Look...I obviously don't have enough information on this which is why I posted in the first place. Don't be a dick because I'm requesting some help on something I'm having difficulties with.

Guess I'm on my on with this one.

Yep, you are own your own. I didn't just point out the answer to you. But then again, you weren't able to pick the answer out of the TMO website, which is pretty clear about it. So reading comprehension doesn't appear to be a strong point for you.

ADJUST YOUR LAUNCH LIMITER. SEE IF THIS CHANGES WHERE YOUR "VALET MODE" OCCURS.

Bad news: You will need to read the TMO website to figure out how to adjust the launch limiter.

Brad

 

[JoeZ]

RPM range for it are 4000-6000 rpm. I'm limited to 3000. Valet mode says 3000 as a limit. I don't have security however, as you mentioned before. I don't have the clutch wire yet, but I don't see how this would engage a 3000k rpm limit.

 

[brads]

Originally posted by JoeZ
RPM range for it are 4000-6000 rpm. I'm limited to 3000. Valet mode says 3000 as a limit. I don't have security however, as you mentioned before. I don't have the clutch wire yet, but I don't see how this would engage a 3000k rpm limit.

When you buy a TMO chip, you choose what RPMs you want for the launch limit. So someone could have chosen 3000 to be one of their ranges. I stuck with the normal ranges when I had a TMO chip, but some people wanted lower ranges. It's MUCH more likely that someone ordered it with a 3000 rpm launch setting than you getting a beta chip with security and Valet mode(which is at 3250 on the TMO website, not 3000).

Brad

 

[JoeZ]

Yeah...I read that. With the limit it bounces all over the place...2750-3250. Very inconsistant.

I put my old ECU back in for now...and it looks like I scored a deal on DSMLink so I might not screw with this at all and just sell it. I appreciate your help....it's just been a long day.

 

[brads]

Originally posted by JoeZ
Yeah...I read that. With the limit it bounces all over the place...2750-3250. Very inconsistant.

I put my old ECU back in for now...and it looks like I scored a deal on DSMLink so I might not screw with this at all and just sell it. I appreciate your help....it's just been a long day.

If you are keeping the ECU, and just swapping out the TMO chip for a DSMLink one, you might want to at least try to troubleshoot a little, and make certain you know where the problem is. If as I suspect, its the launch limiter, you will be in good shape. But if its some other problem with the ECU, putting a DSMLink chip in won't necessarily fix it. And if you are frustrated now, imagine how much more frustrated you would be after you plunk down a few hundred more bucks, and still have the problem. Plus you will be able to say with certainty that the TMO chip works fine when you sell it, if you figure out the problem now.

Also, make sure you are getting a legitimate version of DSMLink, not a pirated version. You will not get access to support groups, upgrades, or anything like that with a pirated version. It's not worth the money you save. The only reason I mention this is I have heard of people selling DSMLink that is a "deal" like you are talking about, that turns out to be pirated.

Brad

 

[JoeZ]

I have a 2g, so where is the clutch wire on the ECU? I'm having trouble finding references for it. My manuals don't list the individual connections to the ECU.

 

[brads]

Originally posted by JoeZ
I have a 2g, so where is the clutch wire on the ECU? I'm having trouble finding references for it. My manuals don't list the individual connections to the ECU.

The factory ones do. But what you'd find is that there isn't one going from the clutch to the ECU. You have to cut an already existing wire to the ECU, and rewire it to go to the clutch switch.

But instead of doing all that, do what I suggested the first time, it's much simpler. Try to adjust the launch settings. If your adjustments affect what is displayed on the gauge, then that means everything is normal. If your adjustments affect the RPM the car seems to be limiting at, then that means the way its wired now, it thinks the clutch is always depressed.

Brad

 

[JoeZ]

I got it all wired and everything...I really don't like the way it functions. My car runs like crap with it in...but maybe it's just relearning and all. I switched back to my old ecu and ordered dsmlink.

Thanks for your help.

 

[BIGGSIE]

Do you want to get rid of it?? If so how much?

 

[kpt4321]

Your car running crappy has nothing to do with the TMO.

 

[91turboTSi]

Damn, you guys arent helping him at all. It is not revving over 3250 because of valet mode. The stutterbox is ONLY with the clutch depressed, so therefore if he was free revving while clutched in, then it would only go to 3250. But his problem is that it wont rev over 3250 during regular driving. As for how to take it off valet mode? Check with TMO, maybe give them a call, and they will tell you how to remove it.

 

[JoeZ]

thanks 91turbo...but I'm done with it. I'm just waiting for a deal on dsmlink. Besides...tmo is dead for all practical purposes.

kpt...actually it does. Thanks.

Bigg - not sure how much yet. For just the chip, I'd let it go for $100...after all I have $150 in it.