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Water/Alcohol Injection

Posted 04-02-2008 at 07:47 AM by Oblivion02
Updated 04-03-2008 at 10:33 AM by Oblivion02
I read an article today about Water/Alcohol Injection... I'm considering adding this to the TO-DO List, or FUTURE UPGRADE lists. It sounds great, but I'll have to continue doing some research on it. Would I still have to get a BIG IC? Or Just a stock IC (or slightly bigger) + Water/Alcohol Injection? Is it worth the money?

Some links:
http://www.turbomirage.com/water.html
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IMO dollar for dollar methanol injection is one of the best mods for our car.. LIKE I SAID IMO
Posted 04-02-2008 at 09:45 AM by whiteythepimp whiteythepimp is offline
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Go big FMIC / piping first, you will never have to refill the bottle.
Posted 04-02-2008 at 03:48 PM by tominatortwo tominatortwo is offline
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i wouldnt go fmic or piping first. i would go straight to meth after i got something to tune my car with...
Posted 04-02-2008 at 09:54 PM by dnhieu dnhieu is offline
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actually there are many people who dont even use an intercooler once they get alchohol injection. The charge temp cools down that much with meth that intercoolers dont really make THAT much of a difference. I know many GN and Regal owners who run this way.
Posted 04-02-2008 at 10:09 PM by 91tizzy 91tizzy is offline
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true many people do ditch there ic for water injection. I personal can see the use for both. When running both you will not need to run as large of nozzles to get your iat down.
Posted 04-03-2008 at 01:03 AM by Devilsown Devilsown is offline
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I personally run both.. Two systems.. One pre turbo, one post intercooler.. But then again.. I'm in the 500 whp club
Posted 04-03-2008 at 09:37 AM by whiteythepimp whiteythepimp is offline
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hell yeah thats not surprising....the posibilties on alchohol are crazy, even with a stock setup you could see big increase in power potential, let alone once some money has already been spent...I dont see why more people dont think about investing in methanol injection as one of their first to-do's. My dad and my uncle both run alchohol injection on their Turbo-T's and they're running high twelves with basically stock rebuilds. (gotta give love to the buicks, but I've got both of their cars in my crosshairs)
Posted 04-03-2008 at 12:37 PM by 91tizzy 91tizzy is offline
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My buddy works at a Saab dealership that sells the Aquamist system. So, he pretty much gets to try out all the little goodies that go along with the most expensive system. On his car the stock compression ratio is 9:1 and he runs 25psi with the stock side mount and gets no knock. BTW, he runs the blue washer fluid so that in the winter it doesn't freeze. That thing screams on the highway. Pretty weird to see an old Saab 900 Turbo beating the crap out of a vette on the highway.
Posted 04-03-2008 at 07:43 PM by ->PrOjEcTGS<- ->PrOjEcTGS<- is online now
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Regardless of your current setup, a lot of power will come from this due to the fact that you will be able to lean out your AFR a lot and throw more timing at it.
Posted 04-05-2008 at 02:39 PM by Black_Bullet Black_Bullet is online now
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THing is I heard you needed something to tune with before getting this upgrade. So, I have to wait a while until I have enough cash for a DSMLink AND alcohol/water injection.
Posted 04-05-2008 at 03:59 PM by Oblivion02 Oblivion02 is offline
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you wouldnt need a tune just some sort of logger to check for knock if your really trying to push it...but overall alchohol is a relatively safe way to make some serious power.
Posted 04-05-2008 at 04:47 PM by 91tizzy 91tizzy is offline
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let me rephrase that....you should get it tuned but that doesnt mean you would have to wait to juice your car if you wanted. Just incremental adjustments and familiarity with your car.
Posted 04-05-2008 at 04:48 PM by 91tizzy 91tizzy is offline
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This thread may be of interest to you. Both meth/water injection and FMIC do best for a daily driver especially.

. . . And those that don't want to 'refill the bottle' are, what, too lazy for over 100% intercooler efficiency?
Posted 04-05-2008 at 04:55 PM by dsm-onster dsm-onster is offline
 
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