Blog Title: project 400+HP EvoIII-16g

over the years of slowly building this car up, it's finally getting close to were I want it. My goal was to make as much power as I can on pump gas and a 16g turbo. I have not yet got it on a dyno to know for sure what its making for power, but this car strait gets it. last time I went to the 1/4 mile track, I had a bad day.... starter went out and my punishment intercooler was getting heat soaked, and I ended with a disapointing 12.7@110... I know this car has 11's in it, just need to get a few bugs worked out.... I since switched to speed density which made a great improvment in power and consistency, also got a bigger ETS 3.5" pro race intercooler, aslo helped intake temps dramatically.... hopefully buy next track season ( spring of 2012 ) this car will be done and making over 400whp and running 11's.... then it will be time to up the bar with a 35r turbo or something along that line..... stay tuned

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Posted 10-15-2011 at 07:02 PM by DSMer541
Updated 11-12-2011 at 04:29 PM by DSMer541 (edit title)

Over the years of slowly building this car up, it's finally getting close to were I want it. My goal was to make as much power as I can on pump gas and a 16g turbo. I have not yet got it on a dyno to know for sure what its making for power, last time I went to the 1/4 mile track I had a bad day.... starter went out and my punishment intercooler was getting heat soaked, and I ended with a disapointing 12.7@110... I know this car has 11's in it, just need to get a few bugs worked out.... I since switched to speed density which made a great improvment in power and consistency, also got a bigger ETS 3.5" pro race intercooler, also helped intake temps dramatically.... hopefully by next track season ( spring of 2012 ) this car will be done and making well over 400whp on pump gas and running 11's on a 16g turbo.... then after that goal is hit, it will be time to up the bar with a 35r turbo or something along that line..... stay tuned.

Block- 2.0L 4G63T

-stock polished crank
-.02 overbore
-8:1 Wossner Pistons
-Eagle rods
-Clevite 77 bearings
-ARP head studs / rod bolts
-balance rotating assembly
-Balance shafts eliminated ( FFWD kit )

Cylinder Head- Jackson Auto Machine stage2

-CC ported & polished, and nifed
-Jam dual springs & ti retainers
-bronze guides
-lowboy stem seals
- +1mm ss valves
-HKS 272 cams
-OBX adjustable gears
-Gates timing belt
-Mitsu MLS head gasket

Turbo/Intake/Exhaust setup

-MHI Evo III 16g w/ported inlet
-ETS 3.5" pro race intercooler
-FP exh. manifold
-2.5" ebay SS o2 housing
-3" DP & exhaust w/ magnaflow muffler
-Tial QR BOV
-3" intake pipe w/ K&N filter

Fuel System ( 92oct pump )

-Wally 255 w/ STM re-wired
-PTE 880cc injectors
-Fuel Lab AFPR
- -6an feed & Fuel Lab filter

Engine managment

-ECMLink V3
-Speed density
-AEM Analog wideband
-AEM true-boost
-Omni 4-bar MAP sensor
-GM IAT sensor

Drivetrain

-stock t-case, and 4-bolt rear
-Shep stage 3 trans w/ TRE 4spider center diff.
-XTD stage 4 clutch ( 2,300pp, solid 6-puck disk )
-Fidanza aluminum flywheel
-steal braided clutch line
-solid shifter bushing
-Torque sloution front motor mount & prothane inserts on other mounts

Suspension/Brakes

-3000GT SL front bakes (dual piston calipers)
-Steal braided brake lines F&R
-stock struts/springs
-17" eagle alloy wheels
-Champiro HPZ 235/45 tires

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	Good sh*t, look like you know what you want and have it all planned out! Good luck with it all!!
	Posted 10-16-2011 at 12:51 PM by skatershawn

	I got to the 400s on a stock 7 bolt on a evo 3 16g so im sure youll go past that on that set up. Enjoy it!
	Posted 10-16-2011 at 03:55 PM by 18Ace18

	Why only 8:1 compression?
	Posted 10-16-2011 at 07:21 PM by jrohner

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Originally Posted by jrohner

Why only 8:1 compression?

Thats a good question, this was my first build when I started on it about 3 years ago and originally I was just gonna rebuild the motor and keep it as close to stock as possible but with a little strength.... as we all know, build plans change and we end up wanting more, lol....on my next build I would like to go 8.8:1 compression.... also I figured I would be able to get away with more boost on pump gas with a low compression piston...

Posted 10-16-2011 at 10:19 PM by DSMer541 DSMer541 is offline

	I would go 9:1 on pump, possibly water/meth injection and run about the same timing as your 8:1 setup as planned. IAT's aren't an issue with that fmic.
	Posted 10-17-2011 at 11:45 AM by Rob10_99

	but you can make more power with less boost anyways with more compression. Making a decent amount of boost (and airflow) on top end is the issue with a 16G.
	Posted 10-17-2011 at 10:17 PM by jrohner

	I don't plan on staying on a 16g, its just my goal for now to get as much power out of it as I can, it was purly a budget turbo but it has been a fun street turbo so I chose to stick with it for a little while till I have all the supporting mods to run a 60 lb/ min + turbo..... by next year I will be strapping on a much larger turbo.
	Posted 10-17-2011 at 11:03 PM by DSMer541

	What a good looking ride man, who makes that exhaust?? I love the look of it. Do you have any video's of it in action? Alex
	Posted 10-19-2011 at 06:41 PM by 907dsm

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Originally Posted by 907dsm

What a good looking ride man, who makes that exhaust?? I love the look of it. Do you have any video's of it in action?

Alex

thanx , Its a magnaflow muffler with custom piping to a ebay 3" downpipe... I dont have any vids yet, but I did buy a video camera a few weeks ago, so hopefully soon...

I'll post up another rear shot so you can see the exhaust a little better.

Posted 10-19-2011 at 10:29 PM by DSMer541 DSMer541 is offline

	Quote: Originally Posted by DSMer541 thanx , Its a magnaflow muffler with custom piping to a ebay 3" downpipe... I dont have any vids yet, but I did buy a video camera a few weeks ago, so hopefully soon... I'll post up another rear shot so you can see the exhaust a little better. Your welcome, and that would be awesome when ever you get the time. Alex
	Posted 10-20-2011 at 02:22 PM by 907dsm

	WOW good looking project, hopefully you hit your goals... looks like you have the hardware to get the job done
	Posted 10-21-2011 at 08:46 AM by jaden

	pretty impressive that was a goal of mine was to put my car in the 11s with a 16g also good luck hope u meet your goal
	Posted 10-24-2011 at 08:05 PM by boostedDJG

	awesome build man my friends gst had a 20g but wasnt build nd only tuned on 20lbs made 390 to the wheels so i think built ## gonna be well into the 400's keep us posted on those videos
	Posted 10-25-2011 at 10:27 AM by dral24

	You have a great looking car on your hands. You'll reach your goal with out a doubt. Best of luck
	Posted 10-25-2011 at 09:06 PM by amballer82822

thanx for the compliments guys

Pretty sure i'm gonna get the car on the Dyno within the next couple weeks, I'll let you all know what it makes, and i'll be sure to take video......dont know how accurate ECMLink's HP/TQ estimate is but -fwiw- right now it's estimating about 440 tq@ 5k rpm and 433 HP @ 6.3k rpm, boost spiking to 32psi falling to 25 by 7k....( 3,000 lbs & .20 drivetrain loss ) ... I dont think I'm actually making that much power but I guess we will see how close that is on the dyno soon...

Posted 10-26-2011 at 09:26 PM by DSMer541 DSMer541 is offline

	I wouldn't rely much on links dyno, it told me I was making 390whp with my 14b and I was only making around 300.. This was at 28psi on pumpgas
	Posted 10-27-2011 at 07:28 AM by dsmdeliveryboy

	awesome ride. this looks exactly like what i wanna do. and your car looks just like mine almost!
	Posted 10-28-2011 at 02:18 AM by 93xsg

	im loving that all white ,clean as a ____ u knw what i mean
	Posted 10-28-2011 at 02:34 PM by 1gfanatic

	So if you can make 400+ on a 2.0 with 8.0:1 compression on a 16g, anyone with a 2.3 stroker and 9.0 compression ratio should make more than 400whp exp on a bigger turbo like a 20g or fp green right? My question is has anyone made 400 whp on a true 16g? If so how many people have done it less than a handfull?
	Posted 11-06-2011 at 07:53 PM by crusindregs

a 2.3-2.4 9.0:1 comp and a 20g or bigger will deffinetly get you over 400 with supporting mods.... and what do you mean by " true 16g" ? mine is a real MHI evoIII 16g, the only thing that has been done is the step was ported/ shaved on the exhaust inlet... its actually not that hard to hit 400whp on a 16g, you just have to have all the supporting mods to max the turbo out to 42-44 lbs/min of airflow and a good tuner...

sorry for the delay, I was gonna hit the dyno this last weekend but I had to hunt down a problem which ended up being a bad ignition coil pack.... all is better now, so hopefully soon I will have some dyno numbers...

Posted 11-07-2011 at 11:10 PM by DSMer541 DSMer541 is offline

	Quote: Originally Posted by dsmdeliveryboy I wouldn't rely much on links dyno, it told me I was making 390whp with my 14b and I was only making around 300.. This was at 28psi on pumpgas thats impressive getting the 14b to hit 28 psi.... that thing must have spiked hard and fell fast... how much airflow were you seeing?
	Posted 11-07-2011 at 11:19 PM by DSMer541

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Originally Posted by crusindregs

So if you can make 400+ on a 2.0 with 8.0:1 compression on a 16g, anyone with a 2.3 stroker and 9.0 compression ratio should make more than 400whp exp on a bigger turbo like a 20g or fp green right? My question is has anyone made 400 whp on a true 16g? If so how many people have done it less than a handfull?

Be done hundreds of times. Search tab on here works wonders

Posted 11-08-2011 at 08:42 AM by canada4g63 canada4g63 is offline

well... thought I would update here....never made it on the dyno or the track with the 1g, broke 4th gear for the second time....So I ended buying a 2G lol, 97 GSX, which I swapped my built motor into and strapped on a TD05H 20G which will now be my dd, with a little tack time here and there till the 1g is done...

I now have new plans for the 1G, it is getting prepped to become a drag car! may be awhile before I make any progress on it but I will post back when I start taring into it.. but I will probably start a new thread for the drag build.

Posted 04-29-2013 at 09:46 PM by DSMer541 DSMer541 is offline