$50 Paint Job [merged]

[rconlon67]

~I found that 6 hours minumum of dry time between coats worked for me. ~

this allowed me to get 2 coats done per day on the weekends.

[Sinner]

I'm sure other people have already stated this and I didn't read through the whole thread but this paint won't last, will cost you a fortune to repaint it later as it will all need to be stripped off before a real paintjob is applied and lastly is an insane amount of work compared to doing it right. If this is all you want go for it but it would be retarded to paint something you care about in this way.

[eclipsh]

Originally Posted by Sinner

I'm sure other people have already stated this and I didn't read through the whole thread but this paint won't last, will cost you a fortune to repaint it later as it will all need to be stripped off before a real paintjob is applied and lastly is an insane amount of work compared to doing it right. If this is all you want go for it but it would be retarded to paint something you care about in this way.

If you aren't going to bother reading the thread or looking at the evidence this does work and is reliable long term then perhaps you should keep your opinions to yourself. As you stated, others have already said it won't work without trying it themselves. Feel free to pay over $1000 on your paint job and leave us to do ours for $50. After all, it isn't your car and no one is making you do this.

[Jrgunn5150]

Originally Posted by Sinner

I'm sure other people have already stated this and I didn't read through the whole thread but this paint won't last, will cost you a fortune to repaint it later as it will all need to be stripped off before a real paintjob is applied and lastly is an insane amount of work compared to doing it right. If this is all you want go for it but it would be retarded to paint something you care about in this way.

Paint is pretty easy to strip actually. But I take it you're the type of guy who likes to leave thing's to the pro's. More power to you dude, but for some car's a 1-2k paintjob just doesn't make sense. And some car's won't be around in 10 years when the paint fails.

[phaseoneracing]

I would never do this. For the simple fact i paint cars for a living. but some of the pics you guys have up look actually real decent. i wouldnt do it...but good luck to you guys and congrats to the ones who've succeeded

[dylan702110988]

Originally Posted by Sinner

I'm sure other people have already stated this and I didn't read through the whole thread but this paint won't last, will cost you a fortune to repaint it later as it will all need to be stripped off before a real paintjob is applied and lastly is an insane amount of work compared to doing it right. If this is all you want go for it but it would be retarded to paint something you care about in this way.

You should read and look at the whole thread before you jump to conclusions about this working or not.

You will not have to strip the paint, the paint can be scuffed and can be painted over just as they would with a cheap Maaco "like" paint job.
Insane amount of work? if this INSANE amount of work bothers you then honestly you shouldn't be tuning your cars, especially a DSM, working on cars takes patience and INSANE amounts of work to get them in top shape.

Read the thread, and see for ## self

[EDM95]

I dont know about this sh!*. this guy where i work did this to his mustang and maybe a few days later the paint started to chip off like crazy. Maybe i better get some cheap car paint for my spray gun.

[EclipseTrbo420A]

My cars been painted like this for about 3 months now, but I haven’t not buffed it yet...It’s held up fine. And the original fellow who did this is on 7+ years with 2 cars like this. If you’re not confident in your abilities then don’t try it....This is not new, it’s not a matter or whether it works or not, it’s if your going to screw it up or not. If you don’t think you can cut it, don’t. Go grab a few extra hours at work and start digging in the couches

[Jrgunn5150]

Originally Posted by EDM95

I dont know about this sh!*. this guy wherw i work did this to his mustang and maybe a few days later the paint started to chip off like crazy. Maybe i better get some cheap car paint for my spray gun.

In any paint job "real" or with a roller, spray can, whatever, the majority of the work, price, cost, time, is in the prep.

If you just walk out to the driveway and start slinging paint all over your car, it will surely fall off/look stupid. Hell, for that matter, if you want a good paint job on the cheap, pull the healight's, tailight's, mirrors, door handles, and everything yourself, sand the car, do any bodywork youself, then drop it off, it will be a zillion times cheaper.

[Sinner]

Well seeing as how I own my own business building Hot Rods I believe I do know what I am talking about since I know a little something about paint also I will give my opinion, most people are using rustoleum for this process and it is just a alkyd based enamel which is the same as spray paint and anybody who paints for a living will know that it is not compatible with automotive urethanes so that means you will have to strip it in order to give the car a better paint job. Also cheap Macco paint jobs will do the same unless you use there higher system which is a urethane base. Alkyd based paints are softer and weaker than automotive paints and will sun fade much quicker, you can however wax the car and try to keep it covered and it will last longer. You can use this same method with automotive single stage paint but then you will up your price from $50 to somewhere around $200-$300. I do agree that some cars aren't worth getting a professional paint job and this works ok for a beater but it seems kind of crazy to put fourth so much effort in making a beater look decent but maybe you have more free time than me. Also just so people don't think that this method is something new, people have been doing this for decades but it has only become popular by the internet, I remember 15 years ago somebody telling me about how they used this method to paint a VW Beetle but they used automotive paint. If you want to do it go for it I don't care hell my first car I spray painted it and thought it turned out ok but after a few years I wished I didn't, but if you want to just make it look decent for a couple of years before sending it to the junkyard or selling it then go for it.

[knochgoon24]

This guy seems to have pretty good results too. He's got coat by coat pics (links at bottom). Poor Man's Paint Job. I might have to try this. My hoods all chipped up and my roof is fading.

I wonder if you could add some metallic flake to a clear or top coat. It might give it more shine while hiding some imperfections.

[eclipsh]

Originally Posted by knochgoon24

This guy seems to have pretty good results too. He's got coat by coat pics (links at bottom). Poor Man's Paint Job. I might have to try this. My hoods all chipped up and my roof is fading.

I wonder if you could add some metallic flake to a clear or top coat. It might give it more shine while hiding some imperfections.

Nice link! When I get around to this I'll definitely be using a sponge brush like he did to save sanding time. This spring my wife and I will be trying out the Aluminum color Rustoleum for this. We'll be sure to take pictures when we do it.

[Turbo_Joe]

WOW< This is right up my cheap azz alley! Im going to try this for sure. Just so you know I found that the Tremclad name paint used in the original Mopar thread has more color options, check it out here Rust-Oleum Brands - Stopping Rust is Just the Start I like the Key Lime color, looks like the 95 Neon Nitro Yellow Green. May try to paint something with it and see how it comes out.. Also after doing more research I have heard not to polish or wax until after about a week to let it harden all the way, can anyone confirm this. Also what concerns me the most is getting the crucial thinning of the paint right. On this site this guy uses a 50/50 mix of the paint and mineral spirits. His Corvair turned out great in my opinion. He even shows pics of the paint job 1 year later, looks super!Rickwrench, Alfa GTV, Falcon Squire, Corvair

[burbage2001]

That is cool. I would have never thought of that. I have tried some crazy painting techniques but it has never worked out. I may try this.

[98ls1ttop]

Originally Posted by Sinner

Well seeing as how I own my own business building Hot Rods I believe I do know what I am talking about since I know a little something about paint also I will give my opinion, most people are using rustoleum for this process and it is just a alkyd based enamel which is the same as spray paint and anybody who paints for a living will know that it is not compatible with automotive urethanes so that means you will have to strip it in order to give the car a better paint job. Also cheap Macco paint jobs will do the same unless you use there higher system which is a urethane base. Alkyd based paints are softer and weaker than automotive paints and will sun fade much quicker, you can however wax the car and try to keep it covered and it will last longer. You can use this same method with automotive single stage paint but then you will up your price from $50 to somewhere around $200-$300. I do agree that some cars aren't worth getting a professional paint job and this works ok for a beater but it seems kind of crazy to put fourth so much effort in making a beater look decent but maybe you have more free time than me. Also just so people don't think that this method is something new, people have been doing this for decades but it has only become popular by the internet, I remember 15 years ago somebody telling me about how they used this method to paint a VW Beetle but they used automotive paint. If you want to do it go for it I don't care hell my first car I spray painted it and thought it turned out ok but after a few years I wished I didn't, but if you want to just make it look decent for a couple of years before sending it to the junkyard or selling it then go for it.

says right on the can its oil based??? the orange beetle from the guy on the mopar forum painted his fender several years later and you cannot tell he did at all. for a dsm thats worth 3k or 3500 i sure as hell am not taking my car to a body shop and paying 1500 for a paintjob, and raise the value of the car by 200 bucks. the point of this is for one, CHEEP, two, any joe schmo can do it, three no overspray, four- hardly any taping. i think some people are kind of offended by this process and from people doing it for the fact that maybe a lot of people will do this and not take thier cars to a bodyshop to pay to have it done. you can also buy better products (brightside....for boats) . if its used for boats id say it will hold up great for cars. several people have used it and it is an oil based paint as well as rusto. you cant hardly get on here and say "oh dont do this its gonna fall off its not the right way its gonna fade bla bla bla".....because you dont know. there is SO MANY PEOPLE (rolledon.com) that have done this with exceptional results (with proper prep work of course).

[98ls1ttop]

Originally Posted by knochgoon24

This guy seems to have pretty good results too. He's got coat by coat pics (links at bottom). Poor Man's Paint Job. I might have to try this. My hoods all chipped up and my roof is fading.

I wonder if you could add some metallic flake to a clear or top coat. It might give it more shine while hiding some imperfections.

and yes, go to Rolled On - Affordable Paintjobs and you will find everything you nee to know. its kinda a hillbilly way but it works. you can clearcoat it, just mix it with mineral spirits just the same as you do with paint. the thing people like about NOT using clear is that you can just repaint a fender, door or panel no problem and match close to perfect as longas you mix the same. By adding clear, you end all future "repairs" you may want to do. yea you can repair spots but you have to take the clear off, repair the panel, then reclear. usually it will never look the same as the rest of the car so people ending up painting over half a car to make it look decent and match halfway decent. i dont see how this paint wouldnt hold up as good as any single stage paint such as maaco puts on....actually it should hold better because its implement paint.

[talonDSMerr]

that corvair looks really nice...

but still waiting on finished dsm projects!

[white_dsm]

This thread needs some picture updates.

[rconlon67]

pictures will be updated as soon as we get some warm weather!!!!