Cops bust street racers in Norfolk VA

[DSM90AWD]

How am I going to make my ride quiet with 3" piping all the way through!??!?!

The 3" welded Dynomax mufflers are very quiet and flow more than a 3" straight pipe (they are actually ~4" internally). That and a "stockish" dual tip would make for a sleeper look and likely pass any CARB-Nazi inspections.

Not to but it's not just CA cracking down. Seems all the attention given the import scene's got alot of politicians looking to make their constituants happy by enacting new laws or enforcing old ones long forgotten. Unfortunately we have no NRA, AARP, AFL/CIO to defend our rights as car enthusiests.

I'm not supportive of street racing, just that I long for the days when law abiding citizens could enjoy their sports car publically without fear of the law

 

[The_EE]

I have no problem with them busting street racers either. Risking the lives of others isnt worth it. I agree, take it to the track.

I carry my NHRA Card with me everywhere I go in my wallet. If I do get pulled over, perhaps it will save my ass. Also got the sced. for the local track in my glove box and my helmet in my car.

 

[Quasimondo]

The 3" welded Dynomax mufflers are very quiet and flow more than a 3" straight pipe (they are actually ~4" internally). That and a "stockish" dual tip would make for a sleeper look and likely pass any CARB-Nazi inspections.

Not to but it's not just CA cracking down. Seems all the attention given the import scene's got alot of politicians looking to make their constituants happy by enacting new laws or enforcing old ones long forgotten. Unfortunately we have no NRA, AARP, AFL/CIO to defend our rights as car enthusiests.

I'm not supportive of street racing, just that I long for the days when law abiding citizens could enjoy their sports car publically without fear of the law

Wasn't SEMA supposed to stand up for us? Or do they not care anymore since they're just interested in body kits, stereos, wings, and other useless shit?

 

[The_EE]

SEMA is the UN of the Tuning world. They cant do squat but talk talk talk. we need action.

 

[raverboy]

The 3" welded Dynomax mufflers are very quiet and flow more than a 3" straight pipe (they are actually ~4" internally). That and a "stockish" dual tip would make for a sleeper look and likely pass any CARB-Nazi inspections.

Not to but it's not just CA cracking down. Seems all the attention given the import scene's got alot of politicians looking to make their constituants happy by enacting new laws or enforcing old ones long forgotten. Unfortunately we have no NRA, AARP, AFL/CIO to defend our rights as car enthusiests.

I'm not supportive of street racing, just that I long for the days when law abiding citizens could enjoy their sports car publically without fear of the law

thanks for the great information man, I hate to give up my apexi muffler, but it might just save me a trip to the tow yard

 

[Ludachris]

SEMA is the UN of the Tuning world. They cant do squat but talk talk talk. we need action.

SEMA is the only group that has done anything to help protect the automotive aftermarket and those of us who love to modify our cars. They've worked on countless modified exhaust bills in California. I've seen the documents. The problem is, they can't get enough people like us to actually get involved and act upon things. Without our action, they are powerless.

In fact, I got a call a month ago from a SEMA rep asking me to personally put in a call to my local representative that would help automotive trade workers get benefits. They even gave me the number so I could call and ask for support on this issue. SEMA is doing what they can, but everyone here needs to get involved if you want to see anything happen. How many SEMA members do we have in here anyway? How many of you have sent a letter or email, or made a call to your representative? That's what it takes. SEMA won't solve all our problems, they can only work to help us help ourselves. It's on you and I, not SEMA to protect our rights. All they will do is organize the effort.

 

[DSM90AWD]

I was under the impression that SEMA's membership / scope was limited to automotive related businesses not consumers?

Votes come from individuals, so the more individuals associated the more influence SEMA would have. The NRA is a perfect example of an organization successfully influencing policy by way of both sheer numbers and money. Individuals pay a nominal annual fee and get a monthly magazine and help pay for lobbyists that monitor new and changes to existing existing laws and organize petitions..etc to influence policy thereof.

The NRA is so spowerful these days that if it weren't for the high cost of gas I'd bet we'd see Abrams Tanks available to the general public

 

[RiceKiller_TSi]

Paul Walker really started something didn't he?

 

[Quasimondo]

I was under the impression that SEMA's membership / scope was limited to automotive related businesses not consumers?

Votes come from individuals, so the more individuals associated the more influence SEMA would have. The NRA is a perfect example of an organization successfully influencing policy by way of both sheer numbers and money. Individuals pay a nominal annual fee and get a monthly magazine and help pay for lobbyists that monitor new and changes to existing existing laws and organize petitions..etc to influence policy thereof.

The NRA is so spowerful these days that if it weren't for the high cost of gas I'd bet we'd see Abrams Tanks available to the general public

I'd trade my Galant in for a M1A2 in a heartbeat.

I thought SEMA was limited to manufacturers/vendors as well. But if we're to use the same model as the NRA, shouldn't SEMA be just a little bit more active in recruitment? It's not just compact tuners who are potentially affected by these regulations. Old school hot rodders, muscle car guys, even autocrossers can get caught up in the mix should they encounter an overzealous law enforcement officer. I'm sure those guys all have the same perception of SEMA as well, that it's more for manufacturers and vendors than it is for the average wrench-turner.

I'm sorry, but if the best they can do is cold calls, then they're not doing enough on their own to strengthen their ranks.

 

[99gst_racer]

I'm not supportive of street racing, just that I long for the days when law abiding citizens could enjoy their sports car publically without fear of the law

Same here.


Sounds more like they are targeting younger auto enthusiasts, not street racers. They are pulling people over for the way their car looks, not how they are driving. Articles like in post #4 really piss me off. The police aren't enforcing what they see is "wrong". They are actually looking for trouble. They are specifically targeting flashy cars on the night of a movie release date. That's harassment and prejudice.

This $hit angers me more than ANYTHING. I'm just glad I don't have the patience to type more after a long day's of work.

If the police were like this in my area, I would have no respect for the law, and I swear, I would do whatever I could to put an end to it.

 

[unlmtdndeavor]

Same here.


Sounds more like they are targeting younger auto enthusiasts, not street racers. They are pulling people over for the way their car looks, not how they are driving. Articles like in post #4 really piss me off. The police aren't enforcing what they see is "wrong". They are actually looking for trouble. They are specifically targeting flashy cars on the night of a movie release date. That's harassment and prejudice.

This $hit angers me more than ANYTHING. I'm just glad I don't have the patience to type more after a long day's of work.

If the police were like this in my area, I would have no respect for the law, and I swear, I would do whatever I could to put an end to it.

i completely agree with how we younger car enthusiasts are targeted. i myself am 20 and i cringed everytime i see a cop. its to the point where i actively try to avoid them when i see them on the streets. and supposedly now you can just call a 1-800 number to report a car that is smoking or whatnot and it then goes to the state referee.....

 

[raverboy]

Same here.


Sounds more like they are targeting younger auto enthusiasts, not street racers. They are pulling people over for the way their car looks, not how they are driving. Articles like in post #4 really piss me off. The police aren't enforcing what they see is "wrong". They are actually looking for trouble. They are specifically targeting flashy cars on the night of a movie release date. That's harassment and prejudice.

This $hit angers me more than ANYTHING. I'm just glad I don't have the patience to type more after a long day's of work.

If the police were like this in my area, I would have no respect for the law, and I swear, I would do whatever I could to put an end to it.

I spoke with a few officers in my area and they stated that " any vehical with an overtly loud exhuast will be pulled over." At that point a muscle car in the 80's drove by and i stated " so you would pull that car over then right?" and then he stated "yes." I then said " so why did I see 3 cars with exhausts (non-import) drive right pass a police officer with no issues." he stated, some officers enforce this new measure more then others. But I knew the truth, the truth that they are specifically targeting import cars, cars that are just cruising around and obeying the law, cars that have no more of an intent to look good then the guy down the street with his mustang. Thanks to movies like the fast and the furious, side showin muscle cars, who have caused such great attention NOW PROWL FREELY, while us imports hide in the shadows and do all they can to avoid the man No offense to muscle cars, WE AS A GROUP OF IMPORT TUNERS ARE CLEARLY VICTUMS OF UNFORTUNATE , BIASED, PREJUDICE.

 

[leet]

The backroads are my friend for this very reason.

Which is somewhat sad.. I need to get an island in the South Pacific.

Meanwhile, people are being shot, robbed, raped, etc.

But hey, It's ALL about REVENUE!

 

[DSM90AWD]

Paul Walker really started something didn't he?

I may be over-sensitive these days, but on this subject did anyone else watch Musclecar TV on Spike this past weekend? They built up the AutoRox Mustang (complete with N2O) and then took it out street racing WTF

By which I mean a T/A came up to them so both stopped in the middle of a two lane road (in traffic) burned out and then raced. Several times! They then cruise down the strip in Vegas and start spouting off jokes about the police they pass.

This all being filmed/televised at 11:30AM during cartoon time.

I mean how f--ing stupid can you be

 

[Ludachris]

Yes, SEMA is a trade organization, they're not setup exactly like the NRA. I believe all SEMA members either own or are employed by an automotive company. But that doesn't mean that non-SEMA members can't get involved with SEMA somehow - here's one way:
http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?ID=/content/SEMASANcom/HomePage

There simply isn't another organization out there that gets involved with (automotive related) legislation like SEMA does. They actually do get involved and help petition against various laws and legistlation.

The funny thing is, I just received my SEMA membership renewal a few days ago. They included a form for me to donate to the California Political Action Committee - a group that helps elect officials who support the automotive aftermarket industry.

In any case, as I said before, the police have been given the green light to target all cars that fit the description of street racers. Unfortunately, most of the street racing out there is being done in import cars. So if you have an import car (and yes, cops consider DSMs imports) you'll be targeted, especially if you have a loud exhaust and anything else that makes your car look or sound fast. It's not particularly fair, but then again, you can thank those who street race for that. It's because of them we have laws getting passed that encourage the cops to crack down and focus their attention on all cars that fit the description. The bad apples are spoiling it for the bunch.

Where we used to live in San Jose I probably saw about 4 or 5 accidents in a 3 year span all due to street racing. You think that won't outrage the community enough to support any type of law that will crack down on the problem? Do you think the community cares if some of us are harrassed a little bit if there's a chance their son or daughter will make it home safe tonight? Get used to it guys. It's not going to get any better until the street racing accidents go away. You want to stop getting harrassed, be part of the solution and not the problem. That's the only way.

 

[AndrewD5418]

I think its a good thing... I know for a fact that I am staying off the streets on friday when the movie comes out. There are going to be so many stupid ####s out before/after the movie tring to drift their moms toyato camarys. And If I were a cop, I too would specifcally look out for cars that fit the profile. I dont' car if its profiling, If other peoples lives are going to be put in danger, than the police should have that right. However, pulling people over who have a modified car and harassing them and ticketing them for just haveing a modified car is BS (in my opinion) As long as they are obeying the law, then let them go. As Im sure most modified muscle cars and Harleys will NOT be pulled over for having illegal emissions.
-Shawn

I 100% agree with you.
We can, start a giant nation-wide cruise.. To get the point across.

 

[unlmtdndeavor]

i think its fair to say that more people crash driving normally compared to how many street racing accidents there are. if they are really trying to increase overall safety, i say they make the driving test for your license harder. i know you can all agree when i say there are way too many bad drivers on the road. those are the ones who cause the accidents, not the tuners that actively work on improving our driving skills.

 

[tstkl]

yeah, but then again, there are more people who drive safely than compaired to those who street race. The number is going to be bigger due to the schear number of women who drive, and thats not the governments fault. Do you have any idea how much trouble our government would get into if they banned bad drivers? Women everywhere would be flipping out, because they can't throw their kids into their suburban XXXXXXXXXL and floor it down the road with no regaurds to anyone else. Plus that, it would put gm and ford out of buisness to ban bad drivers because probably 60%+ of them drive suv's or trucks, specifically gm/ford suv's/trucks.

 

[98eclipseRS]

i completely agree with how we younger car enthusiasts are targeted. i myself am 20 and i cringed everytime i see a cop. its to the point where i actively try to avoid them when i see them on the streets. and supposedly now you can just call a 1-800 number to report a car that is smoking or whatnot and it then goes to the state referee.....

Where the peek a boo smilie when I need it? Chris I think we need more smilies! As for this issue well I guess I now know first hand how bad its about to get. I am thinking of turning my car into a complete track slut because of this. I mean its getting rediculous for modified import owners. Maybe I should just buy a camaro and never have to worry about anything. I can 't tell you how many times being in a friends car(a camaro) with long tubes, no cats, and some "mufflers," camming like not ones business and the cop next to us will usually even give us the nod. Like hey nice car nod, not I am watching you to do something stupid nod.

 

[unlmtdndeavor]

even with all this said though, i really dont care if the cops are out there. they always will be, and i just gotta watch out for them. im not gonna let them ruin my fun. honestly though, im gonna go do a ridealong and make friends with the local pd. i really wanted to on friday night to watch ricers get pulled over after f&f, and from what i heard they did...i shoulda just went and watched. lets hope everything goes well for stinson, especially since we will be meetin in san mateo county...HAHAH

 

[98eclipseRS]

even with all this said though, i really dont care if the cops are out there. they always will be, and i just gotta watch out for them. im not gonna let them ruin my fun. honestly though, im gonna go do a ridealong and make friends with the local pd. i really wanted to on friday night to watch ricers get pulled over after f&f, and from what i heard they did...i shoulda just went and watched. lets hope everything goes well for stinson, especially since we will be meetin in san mateo county...HAHAH

Haha ya me most likely open o2 housing and shit.

 

[tstkl]

, I think the only thing worse than you not coming because your snowboarding, is if you didn't come because your car wasn't running. I went to fftec today to pick up my motor mounts today.... , how loud can a car be? Dyno tuning=loudest shit ever.

 

[Ludachris]

i think its fair to say that more people crash driving normally compared to how many street racing accidents there are. if they are really trying to increase overall safety, i say they make the driving test for your license harder. i know you can all agree when i say there are way too many bad drivers on the road. those are the ones who cause the accidents, not the tuners that actively work on improving our driving skills.

Sure there are more accidents due to normal driving. But street racing accidents involve people knowingly putting their lives and others' at risk. Just because street racing accidents aren't the leading cause of death doesn't mean it's less of an issue. It's a preventable problem that many communities are tired of. Thus, we have a bunch of laws that are created to solve the issue. How else should cops prevent street racing if they can't target the cars that look the part?

Would you use the first two sentences of your post when talking to the parents of the kid who died a mile from my house because him and his friends were racing on a neighborhood street when he lost control of the car?

The bottom line us, many people complain about how strict and unfair the laws are getting yet they fail to understand how much street racing is negatively affecting our hobby. Some people think street racing is innocent even though people die from it every year. Parents and communities are outraged. Once we all realize how much street racers are responsibile for the laws getting so strict maybe we'll finally get some people to become part of the solution instead of making light of the issue and blaming the cops and the law makers for doing what the communities are asking them to do - put a stop to senseless accidents and deaths.

 

[RiceKiller_TSi]

All great points!

I still think there should be some sort of punishment for Paul Walker too though... if only for his acting ability alone.

 

[GreddyGst]

, I think the only thing worse than you not coming because your snowboarding, is if you didn't come because your car wasn't running. I went to fftec today to pick up my motor mounts today.... , how loud can a car be? Dyno tuning=loudest shit ever.

Haha foreal FFTEC always has a car doing dyno tuning and is super loud, you should listen to my dyno I went deaf