SAFC-street tune/dyno tune?

[TurboB5]

Well, i was wondering if i should go with a street tune or a dyno tune from a shop.

I wanna get the most out of my setup for the time being, and am still learning the SAFC/logger setup. I have a wideband and all supporting mods for my 16G minus FMIC which may or may not be on for the tune, but most likely not.

Any one suggest any shops in the tri-state? Ive heard either the best or worst things from turbo trix, so im not sure if i would go there.

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

pruvenperformance is good.

 

[CanadianTSi]

With the logger/wideband there is no need to pay anyone to tune your car.

Do it yourself.

 

[GVR4592]

Yep if you have a good understanding of the logger/safc you can do all the tuning yourself. It makes more sense financially to do it that way anyway, you won't have to pay somebody to retune your car every time you do a modification.

Have you read these threads:

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/newafc.htm

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/newafcsetting.htm

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111005

 

[jrohner]

Street tuning is the funnest part of 'working' on your car.

 

[silvreclips]

I prefer to tune my car on the street. That where its going to be driven everyday so thats where it needs to be tuned.

 

[mikelv]

Sure, tune your car on the street. Just make sure my daughter isn't outside playing when you do.

Come on guys, don't tell this guy to go pull out on the highway, you should know better than that.

I spent some time in the Tri-State Area, and have personal experience with TurboTrix.

I'm not going to personally comment on my opinion of TurboTrix, but I will let you know what you’re going to get and what to expect.

A basic tune from those guys will consist of about 30 minutes of dyno time, and usually three pulls. You’re really not going to get too much out of it, or any shop for that matter. That is pretty much the basic “package” for most shops.

Your best bet is to do a vendor search, and call around to see what you’re going to get. Most places are hurting for business, so they should be nicer than usual to you. Just remember great customer service in the tuner industry sometimes takes a back seat. Just make sure before you call, you think about what you’re going to say first, sound intelligent and respectful and you’ll get the most out of the conversation.

Honestly, I took the time to travel out of the area for my tuning when I didn’t have a facilities or experience.

Now, there are more than enough experienced and knowledgeable members on here who are willing to help, but like I said NOONE on here would ever recommend tuning your car on the street, right?

Why didn't you think of strip tuning? Go down to Englishtown, do it safely and responsibly.

 

[silvreclips]

Just cause you tune on the street doesn't mean its not safe. Jump on the interstate when its low traffic so you can slow down to 50 or so and pull 3rd gear a few times. Then stop and adjust the settings and do it again. You will barely be breaking the speed limit. I never meant tune the car in the middle of town.


Edit - I didn't realize you live in Columbia. I have lived here for the past 2 years for school. I dont think I have even seen your car around.

 

[mikelv]

Just cause you tune on the street doesn't mean its not safe. Jump on the interstate when its low traffic so you can slow down to 50 or so and pull 3rd gear a few times. Then stop and adjust the settings and do it again. You will barely be breaking the speed limit. I never meant tune the car in the middle of town.


Edit - I didn't realize you live in Columbia. I have lived here for the past 2 years for school. I dont think I have even seen your car around.

I don't know about your car, but mine pulls in excess of 117mph at the top of third. It's not safe no matter how you cut it.

Now, I'm not saying no, but honestly, you really shouldn't talk about it in an open forum. I wasn’t really responding to just you, it was just to everyone in general. We should know better, this forum is designed for a specific purpose.
Anyway, I know nobody was seriously getting into the promotion of street racing, so no bashing, no foul. I was just throwing out a friendly reminder to everyone.

No I haven’t seen you around here. I don’t drive the car too much, mostly weekends or the track.

 

[GRAVEDIGGER]

^^^ Wow! 117mph in third. Man, my car is at about 7k in fourth gear at that speed at the end of the quarter mile. Third tops out at about 90-95mph for me.

And to the OP, you should tune on the track not on the street.

 

[illeffekt vr-4]

If you have a wideband and know what you're doing just do it on the street. Just use your head and don't act stupid, pick a deserted spot and go for it. Start with 2nd gear pulls to get it where you want and you won't be going that fast then you can do couple of 3rd gears pulls to dial it in.

 

[spyderturbo007]

I do my street tuning around 3am during the week when traffic is pretty much non-existent. Rarely do I see another car at that time of the night during the work week.

 

[knochgoon24]

Get a friend. I'm slowly teaching my g/f basic car stuff. Then she can watch the logger while I do a pull and alert me if anything starts to go bad (mostly knock sum and AFR). Then pull off, look at the graphs, and change your tune. I live right near 3 highways and the one is empty early in the morning. I've driven up and down on it for an hour and seen less than a dozen cars. Guess I'm lucky.

 

[mikelv]

^^^ Wow! 117mph in third. Man, my car is at about 7k in fourth gear at that speed at the end of the quarter mile. Third tops out at about 90-95mph for me.

And to the OP, you should tune on the track not on the street.

My traps are in the 130's right now.

OP: Just be careful, that's the point here, but you heard my advice. Your best bet would be a test and tune night at Englishtown (with an experienced friend). If you were the one unlucky SOB who got caught, (even though you weren't hurting anything) driving to endanger is a felony. That’s at a minimum, never mind impounds fees, towing, insurance costs, lawyer fees, bail bonds, ECT…
I would rather pay the $25.00 for unlimited runs at my local dragstrip.

Take a look at these threads to learn proper Dragway etiquette.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/drag-strip/10243-drag-racing-basics.html

 

[illeffekt vr-4]

My traps are in the 130's right now.

OP: Just be careful, that's the point here, but you heard my advice. Your best bet would be a test and tune night at Englishtown (with an experienced friend). If you were the one unlucky SOB who got caught, (even though you weren't hurting anything) driving to endanger is a felony. That’s at a minimum, never mind impounds fees, towing, insurance costs, lawyer fees, bail bonds, ECT…
I would rather pay the $25.00 for unlimited runs at my local dragstrip.

Take a look at these threads to learn proper Dragway etiquette.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/drag-strip/10243-drag-racing-basics.html

I agree with you 100% on doing this thing at the track but its easier than said. I tried doing that with my 91 eclipse gsx back in 2003 few times and it was useless. That track is so packed all the time....the most runs I ever got in was 3. The worst? 1 run. I don't know about you but I need a little more than than a run down the track to tune my car and I'm not gonna pay $30 for it.

 

[mikelv]

I agree with you 100% on doing this thing at the track but its easier than said. I tried doing that with my 91 eclipse gsx back in 2003 few times and it was useless. That track is so packed all the time....the most runs I ever got in was 3. The worst? 1 run. I don't know about you but I need a little more than than a run down the track to tune my car and I'm not gonna pay $30 for it.

You bring up a great point, and I’ve seen this so many times. One thing you can try to do and turn it into a group function.
If you’ve ever notice, there is usually a group at the track who seem to get more runs, like there’s some sort of favoritism going on. Around here it seems to be the Mustang guys, don’t ask me why, but that’s how it is.
Anyways, most of the time it just takes some people skills, and some time to talk personally with the track owner/manager or employees. If you call ahead of time, or plan to make a great turn out usually they will welcome the business, as they do with many car clubs.
I know of one instance where there were a number of us in a similar situation where we waited hours, and ended up with one pass. Well we all went to the manager and filed a complaint, and received free passes for the next test n tune day.
There is a lot of shady shit going on as far as priority on the strip, but most of the time, you can work something out. Especially if you’re part of a larger and more mature group; not just some pain in the ass kid revving his Honda and making 20 sec passes.

Sometimes though you can't account for the ass who takes his stock Silverado out there and blows his rear end, leaving a huge mess to clean up. Tracks can only run until certain times because of noise laws.

 

[silvreclips]

What track do you go to around here? We usually go to Darlington every couple months or so.

 

[mikelv]

What track do you go to around here? We usually go to Darlington every couple months or so.

Heck man, I've been down to Jackson a few times but not too much. I've done most of my running up in Alaska Raceway when I was stationed there, and Englishtown back in NJ as well.

I plan on going to Darlington this year, great track I hear.

 

[silvreclips]

Yea its a nice track, we went there this past weekend. Was hoping to get a few good runs in on the new turbo but the clutch had enough of the second past and that was it for me.

 

[mikelv]

Yea its a nice track, we went there this past weekend. Was hoping to get a few good runs in on the new turbo but the clutch had enough of the second past and that was it for me.

Hell, I think our cars would be a good run. We should go out there sometime.

 

[Redfwdsm]

Sure, tune your car on the street. Just make sure my daughter isn't outside playing when you do.

Come on guys, don't tell this guy to go pull out on the highway, you should know better than that.

I spent some time in the Tri-State Area, and have personal experience with TurboTrix.

I'm not going to personally comment on my opinion of TurboTrix, but I will let you know what you’re going to get and what to expect.

A basic tune from those guys will consist of about 30 minutes of dyno time, and usually three pulls. You’re really not going to get too much out of it, or any shop for that matter. That is pretty much the basic “package” for most shops.

Your best bet is to do a vendor search, and call around to see what you’re going to get. Most places are hurting for business, so they should be nicer than usual to you. Just remember great customer service in the tuner industry sometimes takes a back seat. Just make sure before you call, you think about what you’re going to say first, sound intelligent and respectful and you’ll get the most out of the conversation.

Honestly, I took the time to travel out of the area for my tuning when I didn’t have a facilities or experience.

Now, there are more than enough experienced and knowledgeable members on here who are willing to help, but like I said NOONE on here would ever recommend tuning your car on the street, right?

Why didn't you think of strip tuning? Go down to Englishtown, do it safely and responsibly.

no one told them to go do highway pulls to tune or go racing through towns i live in an area where people fly on the streets i have 2 nephews that i watch sometimes 2 and 3 years old i throw bricks at people's cars when they come flying past my house and the kids are out but if you go find a nice big parking lot at night or even during the day just make sure no one is around to get hurt if you lose control or something or go to a road that is pretty vacant no house's remember its all about being safe not just for yourself but for the people around you think smarter not harder

 

[mikelv]

no one told them to go do highway pulls to tune or go racing through towns

Dude, do what you want, I'm tired of this turning into a debate. I gave some advice, do with it as you wish.

I do my street tuning around 3am during the week when traffic is pretty much non-existent. Rarely do I see another car at that time of the night during the work week.

Street tuning is the funnest part of 'working' on your car.

Just cause you tune on the street doesn't mean its not safe. Jump on the interstate when its low traffic so you can slow down to 50 or so and pull 3rd gear a few times.

I live right near 3 highways and the one is empty early in the morning.

If you have a wideband and know what you're doing just do it on the street. Just use your head and don't act stupid, pick a deserted spot

I prefer to tune my car on the street. That where its going to be driven everyday so thats where it needs to be tuned.

 

[m_0ney_pit]

street tune = a tune on your car that you drive frequently on the public roads or daily drive. point is to get get good streetable performance out of your build. can be done on the dyno.

a street tune doesn't nessisarily mean that you tune it ON the street but alot of poeple do do that.

most of the time poeple spending alot of money at the dyno are also the ones that spend their weekends at the track. if you do go to the track and tune just be careful its not hard to get wrapped up in the poeple in the stands and the person your racing next to and want to go for your best ET and blow your motor spilling oil all over the track that takes forever to clean up.

my advice if your not sure about tuning your car take it to someone that has alot of experience so they can do it for you.

 

[mikelv]

street tune = a tune on your car that you drive frequently on the public roads or daily drive.
a street tune doesn't nessisarily mean that you tune it ON the street but alot of poeple do do that.

Street TUNE and street TUNING are two totally different things.

Everyone has been talking about street TUNING. Which would consist of WOT tuning AND cruise tuning.

Not putting a street tune on it.