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Old 05-30-2008, 01:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Have you ever tried using the majority of OBX products? They put little to no R&D in; (420a turbo manifold, 420a intake manifold, their cam gears, etc.) All of those products come not fitting, not lining up properly, or missing necessary items for them to work; all brand new. If you want to chance $800 to be another guinea pig, by all means go ahead.

R&D Department, I don't think OBX even has a R&D department. What they have is a reverse engineering department to copy the other products on the market & they can't even do that properly

I wonder if these OBX turbos work as well as the knock off Quaife LSD's they came out with for our application a few years back that wouldn't even physically work in our application

Sure a 1 year warranty is great but does anyone know if they'll even honour this warranty if something does happen. There are a tonn of companies out there that there warranties are worth less then the paper their written on.

For me, I give my money to companies that actually put R&D into their products & not just try & copy others on the market. If everybody starts buying the knock off crap, there won't be any of the "good" companies left, then what are the companies such as OBX going to copy
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Old 05-30-2008, 02:25 PM   #32 (permalink)
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You threw the props in at the end so you show that you didn't mean anything by this post so i'll hold back but this is the skinny as I see it and I'm not the be all end all but I have modded enough to know a little about a lot.

Name brand companies prey on people like you. You keep them in buisness with your concept of a good and bad part. The majority of teh time what's cheap is bad and what's expensive is better so people use that as their rule of thumb ALL the time, when in reality it isn't true ALL the time. I could sit here and spit off parts that I had that were cheaper versions that a company sold for more money and worked as good if not better but just believe me when I say it's true. Take your build. You have a car that a descent amount of mods all of which seem to be name brand and quality parts and I think that's cool and all but you ended up with and this is from yoru profile "Dyno run 261 awhp 247 tq ( Dec 05 ) Dyno run 274 awhp 254 tq( Jul 06 ) " Now while I give you props for trying that just seems like a lot of misspent money for performance that I have seen out of a ebay 16g turbo kit with ebay fmic both which are knock off and cheap parts. There is a guy who made a whole thread about a ebay turbo build who had better results. Some of the parts you listed are not even complicated parts. A wastegate and bov(by the way are tech the same just placed on intake vs exhaust side for argument sake) is nothing more than a piston with a spring. Nobody makes cheap rods and pistons and cheap rotors are what 99% of shops use and i'm talking about everyone from mom and pops to Firestone Pepboys and any other "BIG NAME" place around you. I know this because I sell those places their parts so I have a little more insight on parts and qaulity vs prcie than the average joe. There isn't really anything wrong with buying name brand I"m all about piece of mind just don't let piece of mind be confused with being naieve.

I'm glad you picked up on THE_EE's cheap shots while trying to praise "us 420a's" for our commitment..."your 420a is going to be doing a 15 second quarter mile if you are lucky".... Nice little sneak in there EE...

I agree with Slippi completely, A smart shopper doesn't just glance at the name brand and then pull out the credit card... Some companies that sell OEM or aftermarket use quality parts and often times will state their quality parts; Or with a little research, you can find their connection with big name companies. I'm not going to reiterate this point because Slippi covered this nicely, and he does have the first hand experience.


I myself wouldn't go the route of an OBX turbo mainly because their R&D are the customers that they ship their products out too. I've read problems at numerous forums (honda, neon, subaru...etc) of people who have tried their turbos and had horror stories. But when OBX gave them a new one, they stated that they had fixed the problem. The only reason they knew what the problems were was because of the customers who complained of the failures. I'm not saying all their turbos failed, but the good majority that did were heard about all over. I'm mainly referring to their turbos.
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