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Old 01-21-2006, 09:20 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Would that be ok pressure-wise and all? I dont need braided lines?
yes it is ok. i have had my fmu hooked up for well over 1 year with no problems. the lines for the fmu don't need to be braided. should coust you all of 8 bucks.
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Would that be ok pressure-wise and all? I dont need braided lines?
It will be fine. When they ask if it's for carburated or fuel injected, and you tell them injected, they will get you the high pressure fuel line. It costs like 3-4 bucks a foot, but it's tough stuff.

I thought it was 1/4" hose???


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I thought it was 1/4" hose?
Thats what GSGoinFast is using in his writeup, is that what youre running also?

P.S. What are you doing to lay down 214 whp? How much psi is that at?


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Yep I've got 1/4 inch fuel hose. I would say get that, because chances are, that's what the nipples on the FMU are. Be sure to get High Pressure.

I don't know how I got 214 LoL, I'm only running 6 PSI tuned with SAFC2...I guess some cars just react better to boost than others

Some people with less psi get more power, some with more psi get less power...Lots of variables..

One ? though..Why didn't you just go with a Johnny Racecar FMIC? Their 8" core is only 215 shipped and then you can just get U bends off of Summit, have them cut and welded to fit. Would have come out to less than 600+ I believe.
Looks good none the less


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Yep I've got 1/4 inch fuel hose. I would say get that, because chances are, that's what the nipples on the FMU are. Be sure to get High Pressure.
Ok, thanks a million!

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One ? though..Why didn't you just go with a Johnny Racecar FMIC? Their 8" core is only 215 shipped and then you can just get U bends off of Summit, have them cut and welded to fit. Would have come out to less than 600+ I believe.
Looks good none the less
Well it took me the better part of a year to piece together the custom turbo kit a paycheck at a time, and I was admittedly getting impatient. I came into some spendable money (new job, higher pay) did like a day's worth of research, and came up with that kit.

What turbo are you running, and when do you hit full boost? TIA!


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Same as yours just not the super...It's a Garrett T3 60 trim with .42 compressor A/R

I get full boost around 3,500 rpm..


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Ok, thanks a million!



Well it took me the better part of a year to piece together the custom turbo kit a paycheck at a time, and I was admittedly getting impatient. I came into some spendable money (new job, higher pay) did like a day's worth of research, and came up with that kit.

What turbo are you running, and when do you hit full boost? TIA!
you might be right about the 1/4. i think i am running 3/16. not much differenct between the 2. lets do some fractions 4/16=1/4. so there is almost no difference. if i remember right i bought my hose at pep boys in agusta ga. and they were out of 1/4.
as far as what turbo i have a cheap xs power turbo. it has a 43.trim compressor. it spools full just before 2,800. here is a pic of my setup. dont laugh at the hack job on my dp. long story.

oh yeah it looks like sidemount piping but it is fmic
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here is a pic of my setup. dont laugh at the hack job on my dp. long story.

oh yeah it looks like sidemount piping but it is fmic

I like the red themes, thats nice. And all my ic piping runs down the driver's side as well. Hey, pm me that dp story, sounds interesting.

Edit: Just noticed your wastegate. Mines going to do the same thing, dump right into the downpipe. How loud is it like that? Not very, I hope.


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I like the red themes, thats nice. And all my ic piping runs down the driver's side as well. Hey, pm me that dp story, sounds interesting.

Edit: Just noticed your wastegate. Mines going to do the same thing, dump right into the downpipe. How loud is it like that? Not very, I hope.
my waste gate doesn't dump into the down pipe. it dumps into the atmosphere. i used to think it was loud. then i installed my exhaust cutout and i can't even hear the wastegate anymore. the down pipe isn't really a long story.

i bought it from mike hart at thestreetsource.net when i got it the flange was about 1/2 inch off.

the dp would not clear the lower rad. hose. so i had a welder and went to cut it and mark where it needed to be. got it cut. went to weld it and my welder broke. took it to midas had them weld it on my marks. got it back from them an hour later and went to put it on. they missed my marks. so i took it back to midas and raised a little hell. they let be recut it and weld it myself. then they offered me a job. so my dp flange has ben welded 3 times. thats why it is ugly. i am going to upgrade turbos in a few months. then i will cut it again and weld a new flange on it.
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lollerz @ u all


I've got the super 60 as well, and I also start spooling at like 2,800. I got my downpipe/midpipe from mike and it's the pimp shizzle. My problem is now the clutch.....I guess doing launches on the highway when it's -40 outside isn't a very good idea


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Update time.

O2 sensor was crossthreaded. Replaced.

Got the car cranked, blew an oil line. Replaced that crappy rubber thing with stainless steel line.

Got the car cranked again, the revs begin moving up and down between 600 and 1000, tapped the gas and it idled fine at 1000.

Took it out, boosts fine, right up to 8 lbs, and either the turbo or wastegate are loud as hell, but around 2500 it gets really loud up under the hood with a spooling noise. Also noticed that the bov flutters between shifts. Can the SSQV be adjusted?

Came to a stop, and the car shut off. It just idles on down to zero everytime you stop.

So it runs, but it wont idle when you come to a stop. Any ideas?


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check and make sure your fmu and fuel pump are hooked up right. also check for vacuum leaks. they will cause bad idle and sometimes stalling
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Maybe try checking the vac line thats hooked up to the BOV. I have heard of fluttering because of it not hooked up right (or at all) and I'm sure it could have something to do with an idle problem.


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Sounds like a vacuum problem to me..Like stated before, I would check all connections..

As for the BOV flutter, from what I understand it is a knock off that comes with the kit...With a knock off, some work right, some don't.


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As for the BOV flutter, from what I understand it is a knock off that comes with the kit...With a knock off, some work right, some don't.
I bought the bov seperately. Ive been Googling frantically, and some people say the ssqv is supposed to flutter at low boost, because of its dual-stage design, and its not an issue. Some people say its outright surge, and will destroy my turbo in six months.

I just want the thing to run right!

Ill try to get some more pics up when the sun gets back up.


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yea that fmic is just plan sexy on the 97 up bumber. i wish i had one and you well love that dump sound. In my car it doesn't come alive until it opens then its nothing but spinning tires i can't wait to see your dyno #'s or ET's
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don't part throttle boost....if you look on the back of your bov, you'll just happen to notice the tensioner bolt


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don't part throttle boost....if you look on the back of your bov, you'll just happen to notice the tensioner bolt
Its one of the newer SSQV's, doesnt have an adjustment screw.


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where do you have the vac line for your bov run from, right off the intake manifold or teed off of something else?
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where do you have the vac line for your bov run from, right off the intake manifold or teed off of something else?
Ok, now its right off the intake manifold, and that made the fluttering go away completely, thanks.

Here's whats going on:
1.) Bucks and stumbles while going down the road at ~65mph.
2.) Whered all my vacuum go? SAFC says I have around 88mmhg of vacuum at idle, I used to have down in the 400s before I belive. Not sure. Anyway, it reads about 15 on the boost gauge at idle.
3.) The narrowband a/f gauge I bought (like a moron), what the heck. A red light and three amber lights sit on "Lean" at idle while a green light is simultaneously over at "Rich."
4.) Still dies at stops.


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