Grinding on down shift to first?

[mitecl96]

OK I have a 96 eclipse with a 420a manual transmission. OK I was at my brothers house and I realized that I was out of clutch fluid. Well I had no money so I had to drive it back home about 30 mins away and mostly highway. But my clutch barely worked and I basicly had to first in to first when I had to stop. Well after I got home and put some guild in it and rebleed it everything was fine beside if I was moving and slowing down I would shifts to first it would grind bad.
Well I finally got to replace the slave and master cylinder because the both were bad and it still does this. What could be wrong. I was thinking the synchronize but first and second share one and I have no problem with second or any other gears. Could that still be the problem?

 

[96' Eclipse GS]

You ate "First Gear" up, Could be the clutch fork, 1st Gear Synchronizer or release bearing...you can only know by opening her up...Double check your linkage, because you forcing it in, could also cause problems....

 

[mitecl96]

Force was the wrong word to use but I didn't slam it in, I just kept it till it went to first.
I did fail to say if I come to a complete stop and I can shift to first no problem.
I need to get an idea of what's wrong because I can't take it apart and wait for parts because I need it being a daily driver.

 

[TheEagle]

Wait til ya stop then downshift to first. Problem solved.

Had the same issue with a VW rabbit and my mom had the same issue in a newer kia spectra. Ya just learn to live around it unless ya want to try and fix it. Nothing went bad while I had it so I don't think it became a true mechanical issue.

 

[mitecl96]

I really need to fix the problem because I doing an Autocross that's in a parking lot with cones and some of the turns I need to shift down to first and I cant.
I do not want to avoid the problem.

 

[mitecl96]

Does anyone know what could be the problem. I need to know what to order

 

[96' Eclipse GS]

I would again recommend open her up at least the pan, and see what's up. But it is possible that you burned up the 1st syncho....I do not want get you upset, it is the ONLY way! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My first sentence covers it.

 

[mitecl96]

What pan I have a manual. But I'm asking what y'all think so I can order stuff to take it apart. I'm not getting upset I am just looking for theory's. Like I said was it my synchronizer but first and second share the same synchronize so wouldn't I have a problem with second?

 

[96' Eclipse GS]

Sorry, let me rephase what I meant. Drain the fluid and check, is what I meant by "at least check what is in the drain pan". Sorry about the misunderstanding.

 

[mitecl96]

Your fine I didn't mean to sound pissed but I'll check what, should I be looking for?

 

[VelocitàPaola]

Your fine I didn't mean to sound pissed but I'll check what, should I be looking for?

Chips, shavings, bits of metal... anything but oil.

 

[mitecl96]

I finally am back to this problem for a while.

Where is the drain plug? I have looked but only see where to put fluid in for the diff.
I know I am over looking it.

Also, do they have a complete rebuild for this transmission. NV-T350 right?

I am also looking for a service manual to help me rebuild the transmission.
Thinking about getting a transmission from a pull a part and rebuilding it. I've seen also somewhere that I can put a taller 5th gear in it to lower the RPMs on the highway.

 

[grothe3297venge]

If you want a taller 5th gear you need to start looking at neon transmissions. I want to say its the neon 3.55 trans?? This should help! - http://www.neons.org/forumdodge/trans.htm

 

[mitecl96]

True I have read about the neon transmission. But that is later.

I still want to fix the transmission I have why I am looking at a rebuild kit.

Maybe this if it will work?
A578 5 Speed Manual Transmission Rebuild Kit with Synchros 'NVT350' Fits '94 '00 | eBay

Also how to I drain the fluid to see what is in it? like stated before, I don't see a drain plug. ??

 

[destruckeclipse]

Theres a drain plug on the bottom of the trans and a fill about half way up. You need to remove it and see what comes out. If your under the car you can't miss it.