| 420A Bolt-on Tech Intake, exhaust, ignition, fuel system, cooling, etc - specific to 2G N/T DSMs. New Members must limit their 420A tech posts to this forum. |
05-21-2008, 06:34 PM
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Surge Performance Chip
Has anyone ever tried this? a Surge Performance Chip, its from Auto Body Kits Car Parts Accessories Spoilers and Police Headlights and apparently it jus hooks into your ECU and into your AIT and O2 Sensors. says gains up to 35 HP and is dyno proven, let know me know what you guys think
Add up to 35 Horse Power - usually 7-10% power gain
Add up to 20+ Ft LBS of Torque
Fully adjustable for either Horsepower or Gas Mileage via Knob
More low end torque
More power to tow or race
1-4 MPG Savings
Faster 0-60 MPH times
Faster 1/4 and 1/8th mile track times
Faster Acceleration at all RPM
Up to 20% quicker throttle response time
Smoother shifting (Automatics only)
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05-21-2008, 06:41 PM
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Most of the time those are scams, They work by leaning out your a/f's. Or at least the ones ive seen, I checked the link but cant find it.
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05-21-2008, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SuzukiRidr326
Has anyone ever tried this? a Surge Performance Chip, its from Auto Body Kits Car Parts Accessories Spoilers and Police Headlights and apparently it jus hooks into your ECU and into your AIT and O2 Sensors. says gains up to 35 HP and is dyno proven, let know me know what you guys think
Add up to 35 Horse Power - usually 7-10% power gain
Add up to 20+ Ft LBS of Torque
Fully adjustable for either Horsepower or Gas Mileage via Knob
More low end torque
More power to tow or race
1-4 MPG Savings
Faster 0-60 MPH times
Faster 1/4 and 1/8th mile track times
Faster Acceleration at all RPM
Up to 20% quicker throttle response time
Smoother shifting (Automatics only)
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Did you read this part?
" # Will this module fit my 4cyl, 6cyl, 8cyl, 10cyl?
# The Surge Module will fit all engine sizes and types for this make of vehicle, providing they are fuel injected and not turbo or not diesel."
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05-21-2008, 06:44 PM
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Hes not turbo.....If thats what you mean?
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05-21-2008, 06:45 PM
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" ....and not already blown up"
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05-21-2008, 06:46 PM
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05-21-2008, 06:48 PM
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Thats what i thought dont do it unless you want to rebuild your motor IMO
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05-21-2008, 06:56 PM
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does anyone know if anyone makes chips for DSM's? my bro which had a F-150(not even close to import) has an Edge Programmer on his truck that allows 3 diff power setting n jus plugs into his OBDII port, im looking for sumthin like that for my Clipse
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05-21-2008, 06:57 PM
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I call it .....BOGUS!
and nope, no easy just pop in chip for the 420a.
Save up for when PnPMSnS comes out.
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05-21-2008, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SuzukiRidr326
does anyone know if anyone makes chips for DSM's? my bro which had a F-150(not even close to import) has an Edge Programmer on his truck that allows 3 diff power setting n jus plugs into his OBDII port, im looking for sumthin like that for my Clipse
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Those are the real programmers, But they are only made for trucks and a few domestic cars...
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05-21-2008, 07:06 PM
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Hes not turbo.....If thats what you mean?
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My bad. I thought his vehicle listed said turbo but I must have been mistaken.
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05-21-2008, 07:09 PM
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thanks for all your help guys, when i first saw it i was like wow sweet, but i better ask the guys about it first, but now that everyone told me about it im considering trading my car for a 96 Talon TSi AWD 5spd 
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05-21-2008, 07:15 PM
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thanks for all your help guys, when i first saw it i was like wow sweet, but i better ask the guys about it first, but now that everyone told me about it im considering trading my car for a 96 Talon TSi AWD 5spd 
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Oh come on....Slap a 16g on that beast, Screw 4g63s  , But no if you want easy cheap performance go for it 
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05-21-2008, 07:31 PM
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Oh come on....Slap a 16g on that beast, Screw 4g63s  , But no if you want easy cheap performance go for it 
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I have yet to find anything cheap for the 4g63. 
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05-21-2008, 07:34 PM
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I have yet to find anything cheap for the 4g63. 
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Try owning a 420a.... 
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05-21-2008, 07:35 PM
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you have no idea how bad id love to boost my 420A i jus dont have the $$ to get a turbo kit, plus trading my N/T car strait up for a already boosted car, cant really beat that
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05-21-2008, 07:38 PM
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you have no idea how bad id love to boost my 420A i jus dont have the $$ to get a turbo kit, plus trading my N/T car strait up for a already boosted car, cant really beat that
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If the talon is that cheap its probably to good to be true... I cant even do a even trade to a nice awd turbo. (believe me i tryd)
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05-21-2008, 07:39 PM
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to Car_guy: I agree with you, Ibelive its mostly cause 4g63s have plenty more support than 420as.
To Suzuki: If i were you id totaly trade for that awd Tsi, only that wouls suck more is gas.....and insurance. But hey better than putting at that money into the 420a.Then again im just trying to get 15.3s or lower so im not shooting for nothing extraordinary
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05-21-2008, 07:41 PM
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to Car_guy: I agree with you, Ibelive its mostly cause 4g63s have plenty more support than 420as.
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Thats exactly the problem....But its slowly changing as turbo 420a's are starting to show up more and more....
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Try owning a 420a.... 
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I do. I also have a 97 rs-gs convert.
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