Installing a turbo 4g63 into an nt 4g63

[tbTalonES94]

I have a 90 oil cooler on my n/t 7bolt

But I also have a 90 turbo ecu

Drive-shafts and spindles are the same. It's the spline count on the input shaft that differs.

[TimG]

About the n/t trannies. What more proof do you need?http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/show...73#post1562073

[tbTalonES94]

Most people say ya that can happen to any tranny. Well the point is that the turbo tranny usually goes out because of hard launches, not just hard pulls in 3rd gear. Ticking time bomb.

[teme]

About the injector resistor pack, what is it's main purpose? What does it do?
My future setup is going to have 650cc injectors and I will have s-afc2, so do I still need it?

thx.

[tbTalonES94]

Some injectors are high resistance (non-turbo injectors) and some injectors are low resistance (turbo injectors). Unless you use the resistor pack or some type of resistor the Low resistance injectors will be getting to much resistance and then, well you can figure the rest out. Just you have to have it, or some type of resister to lower the resistance to the injectors.

I hope that didn't confuse you.

[Project ES]

I was told before that you could buy high impedance injectors but they are harder to come by for some reason. I did the siring in of my injector resistor pack and its not hard at all. Only 5 wires if im not mistaken. Good luck

[Raph]

Originally Posted by TimG

About the n/t trannies. What more proof do you need?http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/show...73#post1562073

the tranny i have fits the 225mm flywheel found in the 2g gstd.. i havent had problems yet
..except that the gear ratios seem to be shorter ..but im looking for a 2g gst tranny as a spare tho

[mavisky]

Originally Posted by Project ES

I was told before that you could buy high impedance injectors but they are harder to come by for some reason. I did the siring in of my injector resistor pack and its not hard at all. Only 5 wires if im not mistaken. Good luck

I've never seen high impedance injectors for our cars that were any bigger than 550's, and I believe they were mighty salty as well.

Resistor pack is 5 wires only. 1 for a 12v source, the others go one to each injector .

[mkspriggs]

Hey guys i have no way to get a turbo junk car around here there are about 50 nt but nothing other than that.

My question is does anyone know the actual id number for the pinouts to the ecu?I tried talking to my dealer but they are as worthless as they come and i dont have a way to back the terminal out with out damaging something.i noticed another person asking about this but he was never answered,any help would be great this is the last thing i have until i get her running.thanks guys

[mkspriggs]

hey guys i am in my last step i am doing the electrical now but i have found some problems that i havent seen posted here.

i used this site http://www.ecanfix.com/users/mdhamil...ecupinouts.jpg and vfaq for reference but for some reason my car is different.

if you look at there 90 schematics i should have no wires in 9,14,105 and a few others but i have a wire in each of these.

9 white wire
6 blk/grn
14 grn/red
105 black

i have a jan 1990 vin 4a3cs44r4le103773,also all of my schematics at work say nothing about it being like my car.

Do you guys have any suggestions this is all i lack to getting her started.as for the post above i just went to my snap on rep and got the tools to do it i needed them anyway for working on the line.

[mkspriggs]

does anyone have a 90 factory service manual that might help me out in finding what i need to do to fix this?thanks guys

[ddavisaf]

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/ecu-harness-1G.html
Maybe this will help?

[mkspriggs]

thanks alot but no it wont help as i said that is the one i looked at and another one i have above.for some reason my car is completly backwards but the weried thing is the car ran fine and i know that is how it came stock from the factory because i know the guy who owned it before me.thanks alot though

[mavisky]

So is yours more like the 1991 or the 1990. My car has a 1992 body, but the little details are from a 1991 since its build date was september of 1991, probably one of the first 1991's to roll off the assembly line.

[mkspriggs]

from the vin id on the door it says january 90,the vin is4a3cs44r4le******,and i have noticed other problems like this in the past with the ecu pins,when i was adding my a/f ratio gauge i was trying to go from the ecu but where everyone on the site and vfaq says the wire should be there was no wire in the location.do you have any clue what i should do?is there a site that will show the asctual break down for each 1g?maybe i can look at each and piece it togeather.

[90TSIAWDTALON]

mavisky, how long did it actually take u to finish your swap bc I also plan to do this swap bc i have a 90 awd talon and i also have a 90 Fwd turbo wrecked and a 90 2.0 nt and my dad wants to swap the turbo motor to the nt car cause he wants to drive it to work and also mod it. thanks.

[Pj97GST]

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[mavisky]

Originally Posted by 90TSIAWDTALON

mavisky, how long did it actually take u to finish your swap bc I also plan to do this swap bc i have a 90 awd talon and i also have a 90 Fwd turbo wrecked and a 90 2.0 nt and my dad wants to swap the turbo motor to the nt car cause he wants to drive it to work and also mod it. thanks.

When I first did the swap it took me the better part of a month as it was one of the first cars to ever undergo the swap from what I'd seen on the internet. I could do it now in a weekend with an engine hoist and the right tools. Assuming you had all the parts there and ready to go of course.

[mkspriggs]

i guess im going to have to just get a turbo dash harness,since i already have thye dash out it should be easy anyway.i was wondering if i will have to convert anything to make this work or will it just plug right in?also when i do this will i have to change the harness in the engine bacy or is it all the same harness?thanks guys

[mkspriggs]

mavisky do i just need the harness that the mas connection is on?or will i need to get all of the harnesses the two in the engine bay and the one in the dash?also will a turbo dash harness work with my gauges?

[TimG]

In all honesty guys, you don't need to convert to the turbo MAF. It's the same as the n/t MAF minus a wire for the FAKE boost gage. Use the n/t cluster, n/t MAF and a real boost gage.

Also, the only real wiring you need to do is the knock sensor and injector resistor pack. I have simplified the whole swap to an art. I've done it 7 times and helped out more. You boys need to trust me.

[mavisky]

You've been using the nt maf Tim? I never tried it.

Also I don't see why you're swapping out the dash wiring harness, hell I'm still running the nt cluster in my car.