Welcome to DSMtuners - The Talon, Laser, and Eclipse performance enthusiast resource
























Login


 Featured 
 Products 
 >>>>>> 
Go Back   DSMtuners > DSM Forums > 4G63 DSM Tech > Bolt-on Tech > 1G N/T Tech

1G N/T Tech For all 1G Non-Turbo 1.8L and 2.0L performance discussions.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-30-2005, 02:32 PM   #181 (permalink)
N/T Moderator
 
TimG's Avatar
 
From: Aurora, Ontario, Canada
Region: Eastern Canada
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,025
Classifieds Rating: (1)
Reputation: You can trust this leader of the site
Why did yo guys swap out the nonturbo harness for the turbo harness? It is perplexing. I ran my n/t harness with a few additional wires (knock sensor and injector resistor pack) and it ran good until the day I blew my tranny sky high. Non-turbo transmissions suck.
Offline  

[posts] [gallery] Reply With Quote
Related Auctions
Old 01-30-2005, 05:12 PM   #182 (permalink)
 
mavisky's Avatar
 
From: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Region: Midwest
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,786
Classifieds Rating: (0)
Reputation: You can trust this leader of the site
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimG
Why did yo guys swap out the nonturbo harness for the turbo harness? It is perplexing. I ran my n/t harness with a few additional wires (knock sensor and injector resistor pack) and it ran good until the day I blew my tranny sky high. Non-turbo transmissions suck.
My original harness I made was an absolute hack job since I had to try to figure out what was what and ended up using cheap ass crimp connectors for almost every connection and it would constantly come apart. If I didn't have the other harness laying around I wouldn't have bothered with it at all. But if you can find one it will save people who aren't good with wiring stuff some trouble.


____________________________
-Kyle Mavis
#97 Street Modified Fort Wayne SCCA
Offline  

[webpage] [posts] [gallery] [blogs] Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2005, 06:46 PM   #183 (permalink)
N/T Moderator
 
TimG's Avatar
 
From: Aurora, Ontario, Canada
Region: Eastern Canada
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,025
Classifieds Rating: (1)
Reputation: You can trust this leader of the site
Alright. I think it's much easier, faster and cheaper to get a solder gun and some solder. Crimp connectors will end up coming loose. Go solder gun and solder. If you have a good n/t harness. 20 minutes worth of wiring and you are ready for turbo components. Beats doing the full harness.

But it's the installers choice. Choose what suits you best.
Offline  

[posts] [gallery] Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2005, 07:01 PM   #184 (permalink)
 
mavisky's Avatar
 
From: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Region: Midwest
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,786
Classifieds Rating: (0)
Reputation: You can trust this leader of the site
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimG
Alright. I think it's much easier, faster and cheaper to get a solder gun and some solder. Crimp connectors will end up coming loose. Go solder gun and solder. If you have a good n/t harness. 20 minutes worth of wiring and you are ready for turbo components. Beats doing the full harness.

But it's the installers choice. Choose what suits you best.
Yea I don't know what in the hell I was thinking. I soldered half of the connections, and crimped the important shit, I was retarded. But hell that was almost 4 years ago now. In the end its ultimately the installers choice, but 90% of the people I talk to about this swap are capable of getting the wiring confused on the battery, much less the intricacies of adding wires and the always impossible injector resistor pack.


____________________________
-Kyle Mavis
#97 Street Modified Fort Wayne SCCA
Offline  

[webpage] [posts] [gallery] [blogs] Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 03:20 PM   #185 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: clovis, New Mexico
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 146
Classifieds Rating: (3)
Reputation: mkspriggs is an unknown
will we need to convert our motor mounts at all?its the same engine and im using my nt tranny
Offline  

[posts] Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 04:06 PM   #186 (permalink)
 
mavisky's Avatar
 
From: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Region: Midwest
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,786
Classifieds Rating: (0)
Reputation: You can trust this leader of the site
Did you even read the tech article? Don't you think I would've mentioned something that important if it needed modification?


____________________________
-Kyle Mavis
#97 Street Modified Fort Wayne SCCA
Offline  

[webpage] [posts] [gallery] [blogs] Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 06:51 PM   #187 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: Eastpointe, Michigan
Region: Midwest
Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 96
Classifieds Rating: (0)
Reputation: Project ES is an unknown
If you read Mavisky's tech article and read all 8 pages of this thread, I think just about any question you could have has been answered about this project. Ive used the info in this thread to complete probably 90% of my project. Take the time to read it all. use it as a resource thats what its here for.
Offline  

[posts] [gallery] Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 07:31 PM   #188 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: clovis, New Mexico
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 146
Classifieds Rating: (3)
Reputation: mkspriggs is an unknown
i was just making sure becouse i was buying some motor mounts from summit and they said it will not work with turbo,but we all know most of those people are only reading what is on the computer screen so sorry but i had tp be sure before i bought something for nothing
Offline  

[posts] Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 08:46 PM   #189 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
Mike1992's Avatar
 
From: Springfield, Missouri
Region: Midwest
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,343
Classifieds Rating: (29)
Reputation: Mike1992 is extremely helpful and trustworthyMike1992 is extremely helpful and trustworthyMike1992 is extremely helpful and trustworthy
Quote:
Originally Posted by mkspriggs
i was just making sure becouse i was buying some motor mounts from summit and they said it will not work with turbo,but we all know most of those people are only reading what is on the computer screen so sorry but i had tp be sure before i bought something for nothing
Well, Im backing out of my conversion and selling my already purchased parts, so if you need anything let me know. I have many parts from a 90 gst, but I think the wiring and ecu are already sold, however alot of other turbo related parts are still in my garage. Im trading in on a 2g awd hopefully so if ya need anything get back at me. Anyone need a Spec Stage 2 NT clutch setup? Rated at 280 ft lbs of torque BRAND NEW!
Offline  

[posts] [gallery] Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 10:16 PM   #190 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: Zeigler (Boon Docks), Illinois
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 441
Classifieds Rating: (0)
Reputation: Bostedquest is more helpful than not
Quote:
Originally Posted by TalonR
Hey I appreciate the help, now just to find an engine, and it will all begin. Does anyone have advice on a clutch that will hold up.
If your still looking for an engine, I have a seriously built one for sale. But If I do not sell it, I will find a GS to throw it in.
Offline  

[posts] Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2005, 02:14 PM   #191 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: clovis, New Mexico
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 146
Classifieds Rating: (3)
Reputation: mkspriggs is an unknown
i think i finally ran into some luck workinh on this car.i bought a used engine for $600 and i knew i might have to rebuild it myself i asked for pics and this is what he sent me of my new turbo.i may be mistaken but it looks lit a 20g td05h i thought i was gonna get some trashed turbo ,he said he pulled this engine of a car he found in the junk yard and this turbo has no play and spins smoothly,he also said it looks like other stuff has been done to it,so i might find some other things when i get inside
Attached Images
 
Offline  

[posts] Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2005, 04:41 PM   #192 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
Mike1992's Avatar
 
From: Springfield, Missouri
Region: Midwest
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,343
Classifieds Rating: (29)
Reputation: Mike1992 is extremely helpful and trustworthyMike1992 is extremely helpful and trustworthyMike1992 is extremely helpful and trustworthy
Quote:
Originally Posted by mkspriggs
i think i finally ran into some luck workinh on this car.i bought a used engine for $600 and i knew i might have to rebuild it myself i asked for pics and this is what he sent me of my new turbo.i may be mistaken but it looks lit a 20g td05h i thought i was gonna get some trashed turbo ,he said he pulled this engine of a car he found in the junk yard and this turbo has no play and spins smoothly,he also said it looks like other stuff has been done to it,so i might find some other things when i get inside
Looks like a bent ass 14b to me, thats a hella lot of rust to.
Offline  

[posts] [gallery] Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2005, 07:43 PM   #193 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: clovis, New Mexico
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 146
Classifieds Rating: (3)
Reputation: mkspriggs is an unknown
sitting in a junkyard for alittle while it will get some rust,and im gonna replace almost everything anyway,so im not worried about it.it looks exactly like my friends 20g and it even saytd05h on it,so i dont know ill see when it gets here.
Offline  

[posts] Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2005, 08:06 AM   #194 (permalink)
 
mavisky's Avatar
 
From: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Region: Midwest
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,786
Classifieds Rating: (0)
Reputation: You can trust this leader of the site
Hate to burst your bubble, but that's a 14b.


____________________________
-Kyle Mavis
#97 Street Modified Fort Wayne SCCA
Offline  

[webpage] [posts] [gallery] [blogs] Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2005, 08:08 AM   #195 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
Mike1992's Avatar
 
From: Springfield, Missouri
Region: Midwest
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,343
Classifieds Rating: (29)
Reputation: Mike1992 is extremely helpful and trustworthyMike1992 is extremely helpful and trustworthyMike1992 is extremely helpful and trustworthy
Quote:
Originally Posted by mavisky
Hate to burst your bubble, but that's a 14b.
Thats what I said, a 16g, 18g, and 20g will have dual scroll fins unlike a 14b.
Offline  

[posts] [gallery] Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2005, 01:05 PM   #196 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: Alexandria, Virginia
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 1
Classifieds Rating: (0)
Reputation: TrboDn is an unknown
turbo swap need help

I have 92 Eclipse GS and I put a 94 GSx engine in my car but for some reason my car keps overheating and smokes really bad when I hit the gas do you have any suggestions on what I do or check.
Offline  

[posts] Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2005, 01:07 PM   #197 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Region: Midwest
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 300
Classifieds Rating: (0)
Reputation: tbTalonES94 is more helpful than not
That sounds like a head gasket. Do a compression test, along with a leak down test and get back to us.
Offline  

[webpage] [posts] [gallery] Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2005, 10:38 AM   #198 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
Car: Toyota Aristo Twin Turbo
From: neunkirchen/germany, Europe
Region: Outside North America
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,094
Classifieds Rating: (5)
Reputation: Raph is pretty helpful and trustworthy
mine ran fine yesterday..but today it felt slow??? like hitting fuel cut.. or the ecu was pulling timing..i think i may be getting toio little fuel or something..

\im only running 7psi on 310cc and a fuelpressure riser

oh and the dog stole and burried my oil filler cap ! (had to take one off another car lol)

it was in the garage,the dog was there sniffing around..then he ran off..i thought nothing of it.. then the oilcap was gone! :eek: i searched everywhere



i maty need 370ccs and a fuelpump(walbro 190?) what yall think?

btw its a 4g63 nt plus a turbo rigged on it..i have a stock intercooler,2g bov .
Offline  

[posts] [gallery] Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2005, 06:10 PM   #199 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: bellerose, New York
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 8
Classifieds Rating: (2)
Reputation: TalonNYC is an unknown
1G-specific QUETIONS bout few things.

To anyone Who migth have any knowledge, I know many of you guys are So here is it.
Im starting my conversion, on my 1992 talon 6 bolt and i have3 questions?:
1. Where do you guys get your extra pins for ECU? and Can I use any size pins?

2. Do I really need to wire a BMS, if so does any one have an extra one?
How do I connect it to the CAm Sensor to get power from it?

3. Do I use my original Knock sensor(good condition), and re-wire it?
Offline  

[posts] Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2005, 09:45 PM   #200 (permalink)
Proven Member
 
From: clovis, New Mexico
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 146
Classifieds Rating: (3)
Reputation: mkspriggs is an unknown
can we use are non turbo accesorys without any problems?like altenator,power steering and so on
Offline  

[posts] Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2005, 12:14 AM   #201 (permalink)
 
mavisky's Avatar
 
From: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Region: Midwest
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,786
Classifieds Rating: (0)
Reputation: You can trust this leader of the site
yes they'll work just fine.


____________________________
-Kyle Mavis
#97 Street Modified Fort Wayne SCCA
Offline  

[webpage] [posts] [gallery] [blogs] Reply With Quote