[MidShipCivic]

Originally Posted by fuzzydoodle

Oh dear me, what have I done, I have mocked my messiah...you have no idea what I do for a living or in my free time, I could build engines for a living, this is just more of your assumptions.

But obviously you don't. Haha .

Yes your messiah now watch it I may forgive you.

I do admit, since I don't own one I forget that that mounts are a little different on 1g's, so for that foot in mouth.
But seriously, LMFAO "take my words in like a dry sponge takes in water", your a messiah, self
proclaimed "master mechanic", and a comedian. WOW.

Thanks for the complement! Here at MSEngineering we practice practicality.

And "Lost" doesn't have anything to do with getting information from people who have done this before, I don't know if you noticed wise guy, but that's what this site is for, so then everyone is "LOST", seriously, your a riot.

Not at all, the info is there for you take it in, this tomb has been uncovered long ago.

And actually, I have searched for pictures to see what the difference is, now maybe I typed them in wrong, but nothing came up, now anyone that has done a search knows sometimes its just choice of words to get the results your looking for.

But your all knowing, so you probably have no problems with that.

Mada mada dane.. means nope not good enough.

And just like I said, thanks Delta for the only "useful" information, now I know there is some variations on the bolt pattern, from what I understand one is "wider" which mine is not....this is where if someone was going to be helpful they would assist in figuring out what the deal was, not insist they are on top of the world and know everything.

Wrong, people have been in the mix of their specialties for years decades even and still will learn something new so there isn't such thing as knowing everything.

Now if my starter plate is exactly the same, less that one bolt hole lining up, its probably not the wider Mighty Max block, maybe a different block, but not wider.

And now this is coming from someone who says "search" but assumes no one does, someone doing any searching, about 4g64 swaps would easily find that write up,

Yet even in that, there is no definitive pictures of the bolt pattern, except while its on the hoist with the trans attached, and its not 100% visible. But your the smart guy and you instantly knew.

Huh what? Interesting another min and I pulled up a pattern comparo!

Originally Posted by infinite_kaos

Back on topic, I did manage to do more research as suggested and found all the info that I was missing.

See that was easy too bad someone else didn't try this .

Originally Posted by infinite_kaos

Now, I was talking with a fellow DSMer today and mentioned the 2.4 build, he said that he wouldn't go that route due to personal choice, and that with the stroked motor the piston speed is gonna be much higher then the piston speed on 2.0. So if you were to rev your engine to 7k rpm, the piston speed would be somewhere up in the 9krpm range.

Is this true, also that the powerband would be smaller, since most of your power wouldn't come until 4k rpm, then if you're redline is 7k rpm you powerband is only 3k rpms which isn't worth it, and you would only benefit from a small turbo.

Any word on this, I've seen guys running some really good numbers on their 2.4's. Maybe he's thinking something different?

No it isn't true.

The motor isn't stroked unless it's a 4g63 block with a 4g64 crankshaft, but I get what you meant. Yeah the piston speed is higher but this doesn't hurt anything gains are everywhere and mod for mod it makes more power than 2 liter engine. This geometry is can be more suitable for the camshafts 4g63's have available.