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good point, but I am NOT looking for 12's. I drive 30 miles a day in seattle rush hour traffic, and it is usually wet, i have a stock T25 because i still have 9,000 miles before the warranty expires. I am very happy with the 25 for my needs, it i ever hit redline around here it was pretty late indeed.
I dont know what I run with the 25, I dont know my wheel HP with my current mods, and just look at some of my pics, I am definately not going for some kind of land speed record here. and I dont want to look like i threw on some power upgrade stickers, and some go fast body kit, with some serious small displacement ram intake action.
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